So sorry to hear about your experiences in Sweden. I wouldn't call Swedish a particularly easy language, although of all the main European languages the Scandinavian ones, Hungarian, Finnish, Estonian and Albanian are those I know least about. I also get the impression that the Scandinavians are less likely to embrace English in the way they do in certain other European countries. It often seems that the poorer the people the more hospitable they are. The Nordic-Anglo-Germanic societies are not generally known for this, unlike the Irish-Romance-Slavic types.
I threw temper tantrums in public places...
I did this when suffering from C-PTSD. My mother in her 80s, had to calm me and lead me like a little child - very sad and painful memories. - so I know what it's like.
My family's reaction to this was effectively to push me away and tell me to go and see a counsellor to sort myself out (yeah, right!)
I suppose I had a very devoted mother. I was lucky.
I hadn't been diagnosed with Asperger's then (even the counsellors I saw in the aftermath were ignorant of it); I often wonder what difference it would have made if my condition had been recognised...
I also saw counsellors and I often wonder this too. There must be so very many 'if onlys' in the lives of late-diagnosed Aspies.
Looking back, I wonder if it was a sensory impairment that was the issue here.
It could well be. I've found that I've only discovered my sensory impairments gradually, after all if we've lived with something our lives we tend to take it for granted and barely notice it.
Swedes tend to be fairly introverted, which makes it that much harder for an ex-pat trying to reach out to people and communicate.
Very true. You might get on best in the Romance/Latin countries where people are more expressive, less reserved and easier to understand emotionally - especially for Aspies. Their music and poetry reflect this.
I don't fully agree with this. If the United States was factored out then English today would largely be a language confined to the Commonwealth similar to how French and Portuguese are confined to former colonies of France and Portugal.
What I meant was precisely this - the initial spread of English was far more pervasive than that of the other big colonial languages - Spanish, Portuguese, French or Dutch. The British Empire had outposts all over the world.
English would almost certainly be in the top 10 economically important languages but it wouldn't be a global language. Outside of the Commonwealth, far fewer people today would know or be learning English.
I'd say even then it would have been the top economically important language. It was used in virtually all the world's ports, due to Britain's world dominance in trade. By the way, the ICAO (International Civil Aviation Organisation) recognise four languages: English, French, Russian and Spanish.
I agree with you about urbanisation and the urban accents, but accents differ from dialects (which also have their own distinctive accents).
Germany and Japan industrialised but still maintain their own distinct culture, identity, and language. It's also notable that these countries have not endured the wrath of a politically correct liberal elite since the 1960s that England has which has exacerbated the demise of several aspects English culture and identity. The City bankers are equally to blame because they see England as nothing more than a machine to make money from and making money as the only activity of any worth in England.
I think this is because neither Germany nor Japan experienced the catastrophic social effects that England suffered during the industrial revolution. At that time the nation state of Germany was yet to be born, Japan's obsessive isolationism helped it maintain its unique culture. I agree with you about the PC-brigade and City bankers. The City of London is a unique entity - a state with a state and virtually a law unto itself - an archaism which should be consigned to the past.
The BBC (once dominated by public school toffs with Home Counties accents) was quite brutal towards local English dialects. They once wouldn't allow a person from Tipton to be a radio presenter because they had too much of a black country accent!
A national broadcasting service always tends to have a homogenising effect upon local cultures. I can't really blame it for being brutal towards dialects (for they can be unintelligible to outsiders) but banning accents is a very different thing and smacks of snobbery. Ironically, the so-called Queen's English, as spoken by the Queen herself, is probably the least common indigenous English accent of 21st century England,
Some concerns circulated that indigenous British students (and other students who don't know the languages) might struggle more than with a European language as a result of the different alphabet. What do you think of this?
I agree. I have no problem with Cyrillic or Greek alphabets (and the pronunciation of Greek, Russian, Bulgarian, etc. is highly phonetic unlike English, French, etc.- a great help). Nearly all European languages have their own slightly different alphabets - even. Icelandic retains the Old English 'ash', 'thorn' and 'eth'. Most European alphabets include accented letters, etc. Welsh has it's ch, dd, ff, ll, ng and th counted as single 'letters' - confusing when using a dictionary - not to mention having to be alert to their fiendish first-letter mutation rules. http://www.siaradcymraeg.com/mutations.html However, when faced with something as alien as Chinese - no alphabet and 1000s of incomprehensible squiggles - Aaargh! Help! I think Armenian and Georgian have the most aesthetically appealing alphabets, Arabic perhaps the least, for me anyway!
I think it's a combination of Enoch Powell potentially having AS himself and people with AS having a more questioning mind that doesn't go with the flow of popular opinion and the mainstream media like a high proportion of NT minds do.
Yes! I've always been a black sheep. I'm just far too logical for the flock - and I wander into tangled thickets and think round corners too.
I have suspected that sections of the radical right have appealed to people with AS whereas liberalism and modern western socialism are difficult for people with AS to comprehend.
I suppose I'm a radical traditionalist spiritual atheist This may sound paradoxical but it's only so on a superficial level. I could show that it's entirely logical. I've never aligned myself with either left- or right-wing politics (or any kind of ideology) - and have never voted. I was only seen as an 'enigma' because the professional who called me this was looking in the wrong places, from the wrong direction - and using the wrong language!
An admiration of Enoch Powell by people with AS has caused many frictions between them and NT parents of kids with AS who overwhelmingly despise Enoch Powell but rarely make the time and effort to study him in depth.
This didn't apply with my mother, but then I suspect she too had AS. My dad never really discussed politics.
Edited by Mihaela, 19 November 2014 - 06:20 AM.