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Am I the only woman in the entire Universe who doesnt want to read this pile of pap???

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Thankyou!!!! I don't feel so alone now :lol: !! I managed to upset my sis-in-law last night by mentioning that I had read reviews that it was extremely badly written....Don't think she knew it was classed as 'Mummy Porn' either B)

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I've read them but before all the hoohah started about it ;) It's not meant to be a literary masterpiece and it definitely isn't. It makes me laugh that it's classed as Mummy porn as most people I know skipped the sex parts by the time they got to the end of book one as it was so samey. I've not known a book to have such divided opinions in a long time though - people love it or hate it. I didn't hate it, didn't mind it - definitely don't see what the fuss is about!

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had to google it to find out what you were talking about,

 

all i can say is there is much easier, cheaper, and better ways for me to get satisfied. doesnt take 5 mins. and i dont have to waste time reading either.

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I heard about the Twilight connection but don't quite get it...what on earth is the connection? Anyway, I'm not into angst-ridden vampires either - give me the proper blood and gore version any day!

 

I think it is the 'jumping on the bandwagon' thing that annoys and repels me the most. I've read my fair share of badly written fiction but I'd rather make my own mind up about what I read about. I think it was the 'sameyness' thing that I picked up on in the reviews Lynne as well as the author's inability to use a thesaurus. I also want my characters to have some kind of quality that I am drawn to and billionaire, beyond gorgeous and ridiculously charasmatic men just don't ring true with me :P Give me my men with a bit of stubble and the odd foible!

 

And now they are making it into a film....NOoooooooooooooo! Yes Special Talent - it is a very dirty book by all accounts!!

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I've been wondering what the hell this is about - I have seen every female relative and "friend" on facebook all cooing and going nuts over "Mr Grey" for the past month or 2 but couldn't be bothered to check what they were chatting on about... wikipedia describes it as erotic fiction :rolleyes:

 

AS Warrior - your reply made me laugh :D

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As a male I want to say I am well aware of it. I have an amazon voucher left from my bithday and am still undecide about buying Chrissie Wellingtons book which might inspire me and imporve my Ironman triathlon training, or to buy my partner the box set of three Shades of Grey collection in the hope it might spice up my sex life. I have been through the reviews on amazon which are mixed. I am not really bothered whether or not its a good read or not, its what comes afterwards that I am more interested in if I am honest!

 

As I am now 47, I am realsitic in the fact that it can only be one or the other, the voucher doesn't cover both, and it simply wouldn't be fair on my body to get motivated to add in extra long and hard training sessions on one hand and then be expected to perform like Mr Grey on the other an hour or so later, a copule of years back maybe. Just wanted to know what do you think'

 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Life-Without-Limits-Chrissie-Wellington/dp/1849017131/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1342093267&sr=1-1

 

or

 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fifty-Shades-Trilogy-Boxed-Set/dp/0099580578/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1342093298&sr=1-3

 

ideas welcomed.

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Lancslad, it does appear that the reading of this book definitely leads to frisky behaviour (which the predicted baby boom will attest to) but I wonder just how many women are thinking about their partners when they are bonking or if they are thinking of the idealised version, Mr Grey! I also dread to think how many of the resultant babies both male and female will be named 'Christian', or 'Christianne' or some other variant..However, whatever floats your boat B)

 

Perhaps I'm coming over as a prude but I'm actually not - it just irritates me that so many of these people will be so 'in the moment' that they will forget that condoms etc exist and that no-one seems to have their own imaginations at all regarding sex or the naming of babies! And I'm the one who's not meant to have an imagination...

 

I will look out for '50 Shades of shut the f**k up'.....

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ideas welcomed.

 

Ideas welcomed? :devil:

 

Well someone has to go there so it might as well be me... after all, nobody else is going there :lol:

 

As a male I want to say I am well aware of it. I have an amazon voucher left from my bithday and am still undecide about buying Chrissie Wellingtons book which might inspire me and imporve my Ironman triathlon training, or to buy my partner the box set of three Shades of Grey collection in the hope it might spice up my sex life.

 

You're trying to decide between training or potential sex? Training. Sex. Hmmm,,, Interesting decision...

 

As I am now 47, I am realsitic in the fact that it can only be one or the other, the voucher doesn't cover both, and it simply wouldn't be fair on my body to get motivated to add in extra long and hard training sessions on one hand and then be expected to perform like Mr Grey on the other an hour or so later, a couple of years back maybe. Just wanted to know what do you think'

 

Maybe you should train more to get fitter and then you can do both - stamina is key :devil::D

 

I have been through the reviews on amazon which are mixed. I am not really bothered whether or not its a good read or not, its what comes afterwards that I am more interested in if I am honest!

 

And this just makes it sound like your mind is already made up... ;)

 

Trying to resist the urge to say something else along the lines of letting us know if you survive or something... oh ######, I just said it :ph34r:

 

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It's impossible to avoid it - rarely does a book take that much wall space in a shop!

 

I read an article about it in a newspaper and thought it sounded interesting. But I haven't bought it yet.

 

If they bring it out as a film I definitely might have it then!

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Lyndalou when you get to my age there comes a point where you are not that bother what your partner is thinking about or even who. I am sure I am not the only adult who has gone to be early leaving a partner downstair with a glass of wine and a box of chochlotates watching TV to be woken up a bit later as they snuggle up behind you and are whispering, 'are you awake'. In my personal case what's she has been watching doesn't really bother me as long as the sex is fantastic.

 

Am I the only one to get up the next day and have a look in the TV guide to try and find out what she was watching, putting the TV first thing often reveals the channel. If there is a problem in all of this its when I find out it was a 'one off' drama, for some reason unbeknown to us males its never a ###### series is it, at best it might be a two part thing and we try our best to stay awake the next night just in case.

 

Darkshine I have done a bit more research into this which is difficult because the majority of females are not letting on and realise there might be undertones to this book. All I am saying is that if there is any purchases of rubber involved in this decision making process I am starting to lean towards the triathlon book as I do need two new bike tyres.

 

Will keep everyone informed if I go the other way. If I am not on the forum for some time it might be a case of I didn't survive, I will leave a note to ask the undertaker to log on and post whether there was a smile on my face or not, at which point you can draw your own conclusions!

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Those familiar with the movie "Secretary" think the author 'borrowed' the basic idea from that screenplay. (The man in the movie is named Edward Grey). However - and this is just my opinion - the book is badly written and repetitive.

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I hope I didn't offend you Lancslad. I didn't mean to if I did...

 

Although I'm no prude, I'm probably a bit anti-sex at the moment and kind of don't see the point in it past procreation...call it small children equals knackered and just want to sleep. I'm most likely within a very small percentage of the population! I find the reality of it all pretty disappointing TBH but I'm up for re-education. How old do you think I am anyway?

 

Lol Special Talent! You got me...would have liked that book I think! :lol:

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Darkshine I have done a bit more research into this which is difficult because the majority of females are not letting on and realise there might be undertones to this book. All I am saying is that if there is any purchases of rubber involved in this decision making process I am starting to lean towards the triathlon book as I do need two new bike tyres.

 

Will keep everyone informed if I go the other way. If I am not on the forum for some time it might be a case of I didn't survive, I will leave a note to ask the undertaker to log on and post whether there was a smile on my face or not, at which point you can draw your own conclusions!

 

I am truly gonna resist from replying to that cuz I just thought of at least half a dozen inappropriate things to say :lol:

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As I see it there's 2 debates going on here...

 

1. About this book or series of books

 

2. Sex

 

The books I have no wish to make many comments on - people read stuff - hell, my own nan used to sit and read Mills and Boon and although I wouldn't have called it dirty (yes I flicked through once to see what was in them - and yes I flicked through on purpose to find those bits) :devil: it was pretty tame and fairly clichéd to be honest - and I didn't feel the need to flick through another because I suspected it was all much of a much...

 

But from what people are saying, these books are far more explicit... does that make it dirty? I don't think so... Looking at the cover on Amazon, there's no age restriction on the book - well not the first one anyway... so I wonder whether the content is actually that bad...

 

Even if it is... there's a massive - and I mean massive - porn industry that has been targeted mainly at men for many years - I've seen so many debates about the treatment of women in such industries - and this is anything from mags to films... So does it seem so wrong that some woman has written some book for women? And that some women like it? And does it matter if it's "mummy porn"?

 

And to be honest with you, I've asked around the females on facebook that I know and this isn't the first book written like this - not that I thought for one moment that it was - there are book publishers devoted to this kinda thing...

 

So I really wanna know - how can anyone say it is dirty if they haven't read it?

 

And more importantly - is sex dirty? Is talking about sex dirty? Is thinking about it dirty? Is the act dirty?

 

Here's what I think...

 

No - between consensual adults who enter a mutual agreement to engage in various activities, whether those activities are seen as "normal" or "out there" it is not.

 

As for the book/s well... does it matter? I've read some total rot in my time and I've seen other people reading worse - but it's up to them innit? And the biggest issue I have is that nobody has read it!!!!

 

I wonder if there's more really going on here with this debate... is this really about a book - or is it about sex? Because I can put all the names of people I have ever known into a hat - I know that I can sit and pull out names til there's none left - and out of all the people I have ever known maybe 3 (at most!!!) would be able to have a conversation about the more intimate and detailed aspects of sex without totally freaking out - and even then it would probably have to be a discussion that was placed in a certain context, place and time. That's out of a hell of a lot of people... and I really can only think of 3...

 

And that estimate isn't just based on guess work - I have spoken with almost all those people about sex at one time or another and it really is only the 3 who could sit and discuss it - albeit in different ways to each other - and to be honest those 3 people have had me babbling and stuttering and embarrassed on occasions :lol:

 

Anyway...

 

Just a few thoughts

 

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Another issue could be that it's a bandwagon, and bandwagons are tedious. I always hate the idea of those blockbuster films that everyone has seen and raves about. .

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Fair point. Yes I have an aversion to bandwagons too - but then a lot of things in life have come about from bandwagons - useful things like toilets and technology - I would have to have a good reason not to use those :lol:

 

I know that is too simplistic - and believe me I am not one for leaping onto the current craze - but sometimes crazes have validity....

 

I think we have to question why people are jumping onto this bandwagon - and it still comes back to whether they are sheep or whether for some reason this book or the books have something extra to offer people - and when I think of all the sexually closed off people I know - especially the women I know - I have to ask if this book offers them something that they haven't been able to get before...

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The benefits of toilets and technology are measurable, whereas cultural phenomena are more ephemeral. The last time I was seduced into jumping onto a cultural bandwagon it was Mama Mia! Nuff said.

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Mama Mia, thats serious stuff Mannify, that sort of thing leads to therapy and that can sometimes just be the start.

 

This is going to be very hard for me but I am going to use my own life experiences as a warning, here goes.....

 

I can remember when my partner first went to see the film with the girls from work, at frist it was pub karoke stuff whilst doing the dishes. Then things progressed however the CD was in the car and I noticed my son was starting to hum the tunes to himself. I would take the mickey tell them to cut it out but then the DVD arrived in the house after that. I would be trying to have a lie in on Sunday morning and I was aware it was on downstairs and they were singing along together. At that point I tried to become involved and watched the DVD just the once I knew it was risky but I felt I was strong enough to deal with it. The acting was really shite and I crindged far more than when I had my first taste of a pint of bitter to gets things in perspective here. I decided there and then never to watch it agin it was all too horrible and left a bad taste in my mouth especially Pierce Brosnon, Clolin Firth was bad but Brosnon, I simply can't take cheese at that sort of concentration, it was real hardcore stuff.

 

To offer hope my partner and son are now in recovery. They have their Mama Mia fix about once a month now and they are more open about it. There have been a few tricky moments along the way I have come in from a bike ride and found it on, the guilt is there 'gosh youre back early' but we can deal with that, its part of the process I guess far better its in the open. There are difficult points as with any addiction. Her girlfriends at work want to go and see the stage show at Manchester, and its difficult controling who she hangs around with. She even went to a fancy dress party in an Abba outfit which was a major relapse. Her and her friends had gone to see a T-Rex tribute band and I thought they were turning the corner, a kind of half way house situation but it was all false hopes.

 

Mannify I just have to say there is a life after Mama Mia, but you have to believe. Fingers crossed and you pull through. ###### happens in life and we have to deal with it.

 

Best Wishes.

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Thanks, LancsLad. I appreciate your kind words, I really do. But honestly, I don't think I will ever get over the indignity of having allowed myself to watch it. They say time heals, but I remember the experience as clearly as if it were yesterday. No, I think it's a case of living with it, rather than ever really expecting to get over it. Thanks for trying, though.

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As a male I want to say I am well aware of it. I have an amazon voucher left from my bithday and am still undecide about buying Chrissie Wellingtons book which might inspire me and imporve my Ironman triathlon training, or to buy my partner the box set of three Shades of Grey collection in the hope it might spice up my sex life. I have been through the reviews on amazon which are mixed. I am not really bothered whether or not its a good read or not, its what comes afterwards that I am more interested in if I am honest!

 

As I am now 47, I am realsitic in the fact that it can only be one or the other, the voucher doesn't cover both, and it simply wouldn't be fair on my body to get motivated to add in extra long and hard training sessions on one hand and then be expected to perform like Mr Grey on the other an hour or so later, a copule of years back maybe. Just wanted to know what do you think'

 

http://www.amazon.co...42093267&sr=1-1

 

or

 

http://www.amazon.co...42093298&sr=1-3

 

ideas welcomed.

I have read the first book. It is absolute rubbish. Badly written and with no plot to speak of. It did nothing for me at all and my husband certainly didn't bebefit from me reading it.

The Chrissie Wellington book will enhance your life much more.

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I'm reading a David Lodge book (Thinks...) which contains a fair few sex scenes, but that's OK because he's, like, an Eng Lit professor, so it's well intellectshooal, innit? :P

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I s'pose it's a number of things that bug me about this book (and I totally will hold my hands up to not reading it... ;) ....and still having an opinion).

 

These are 1) Written reviews were bad although everyone's saying how great it is (so why is that???)

2) Bandwagonning gone crazy and if everyone else is reading it and saying I should too then I sure as hell will dig my heels in and not read it!

3) I could turn on the TV and watch some crappy porn of my own choosing and there'll likely be some humour in it which is a bit of a turn on

4) I really don't like sadomasochism

5) There were (in total) 6 toddler meals for sale in a Welsh Asda when we were on holiday but a huge section of the 'Shades' trilogy - having spent a

number of days already trying to find food for my child, I came to the conclusion that there were a number of randy Welsh women who planned to

plug the apparent baby gap in the area

6) Everyone is going on and on about which Adonis-like actor will be Mr Grey in the film

 

:wallbash: :wallbash:

Edited by Lyndalou

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The benefits of toilets and technology are measurable, whereas cultural phenomena are more ephemeral. The last time I was seduced into jumping onto a cultural bandwagon it was Mama Mia! Nuff said.

 

Another good point... if I hadn't already used my brain powers for the day I would think of something else to say - but I'm pretty braindead at this point ;)

 

 

I'd just like to say that the conversation about mamma mia made me nearly die laughing so a thumbs up for Mannify and LancsLad - :thumbs:

 

I refuse to watch it - it came into my home in a similar way - so I made it simple - the disk can exist in the house - but if I ever hear a single second of that film I will snatch the disk and burn it in the garden and I won't even ###### on the flames...

 

And Lynda - how can I argue with your brilliantly reasoned itemised list? (It's pretty good - despite not reading the book) :lol:

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What about Lady Chatterley's Lover?

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Never read it - heard it mentioned many many times - have you read it?

I'm reading it at the moment (and I don't mean just flicking through to the naughty bits).

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My granny's explanations of things to my mum were to take her to a field of cattle and point to a cow, point to a bull and ask if she could see the difference. When mum affirmed that she could, granny said, 'well it's the same with humans' :lol: Nonetheless, she handed her a copy of Lady Chatterley's Lover when she turned 13. :lol:

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