Just been sent the following - thought it might be of interest...

Subject: Paul Harvey Announcement - Vaccines & Autism

Go to the link below, click on Friday - noon. This announcement plays

on Windows Media Player only. The whole show is good, of course, but if

you slide the bar to the 6 minute mark, you'll get to the announcement

on vaccines and autism.

http://www.paulharvey.com/index.php

Heres the link to the original paper...

http://www.jpands.org/vol11no1/geier.pdf

I am a 23 year old male with Asberger's syndrome and am about to start a graduate job in September. Although my Asberger's is not so severe that it prevents me working it does cause lots of communication problems. I am working on this and have made some success.

I did get the MMR jab when I was young and this was when the MMR jab used mercury as a preservative. I know that there is a debated link between MMR and autism, and my Mum and sister do have traits of Asberger's syndrome. My sister and I both had the MMR jab.

I took the debated link between the MMR jab and autism as fact, and found that it was mercury that was suspect in causing autism. As a last ditch attempt to 'lessen' my Asberger traits I have been taking chlorella. This is a substance that is used to detox the body and binds with mercury deposited in the body and removes mercury from the body. I have also been eating raw garlic (which has been proven to prevent mercury accumulation, amongst other things).

I am aware that it is very unlikely that taking garlic and chlorella will have any effect in lessening the Asberger traits, but I am reaching the limit in how NT I can appear to be.

In addition to these supplements I have a low sugar and fat diet (a high fat and high sugar diet has been suggested to increase Asberger traits), and do not have any toxins (pesticides, lead pipes) near me. Toxins have also been suggested to increase Asberger traits. The only other suggested change is a gluten, casein and candida free diet (all three have been suggested to increase Asberger traits), and I would find this very hard to do.

I am interested in possible legal action against the company who gave me the MMR jab. To keep this post short: has any Aspie on this forum who has had the mercury preservative MMR jab considered legal action against the company who gave them the jab?

I did not give him MMR as I did not think his system could cope but he took a bad reaction to his HIB jab at four years old. However, we turned things around and he has made huge progress.

Having done years and years of various interventions, diet changes, Johanson sound therapy, speech therapy, cranial massage, Fastforword, physical exercises, he is now on the milder end of the spectrum.

Yesterday I got a letter home from school informing me of the Schools BCG Immunisation programme and I am in a panic. What could happen? Could this cause any kind of regress? When he has been stressed in the recent past he has started blinking and not been able to stop. When he realises he can't stop, it gets worse, like a tic. I am afraid that if he takes a reaction to the jab something new [ or the blinking ] might start up and not stop.

Can anyone give me any advice, please. My own doctors have been totally useless in the past. All our interventions have been through our own efforts. So I can't ask my docs for advice.

So I'm interested...

Does anyone else here have an interest in this subject?

Does anyone here feel they have a vaccine-injured child or have suffered the loss of a child due to vaccination?

Does anyone here feel that their own problems may have been a result of vaccination?

Does anyone know of other families who have been negatively affected in any way by vaccination?

Is anyone here pro-vaccination, and for what reasons? If you are, is it because you have researched the subject, or have had positive experiences with them, or simply because you are trusting of authority?

I personally believe that it makes people of all ages very ill and sometimes it causes death. I believe it is responsible for cot death, shaken baby syndrome, infertility, and may well be the cause of autism/autistic seeming disorders, kidney failure, failure to thrive, plus more....it's a very emotional subject for me as i'm sure it is for everyone...so lets tred gently. I'm not here to change anybody's views, but i will present links and quotes as evidence if asked for. Really, my intention is just to gather people's thoughts on the subject and i will do my best to restrain my emotions so please do the same. But i have a feeling nobody will reply anyway.

I wonder if this has any bearing on her asd (if diagnosed)

Julie

My Daughter is 6 and whe have just embarked on the asd diagnosis journey. When Isabella had her second MMR jab she went into anaphlactic shock and an ambulance had to be called to the health centre. Her asd symptoms have increased over time and we are now at the point were her behaviour is tking over the family. Has anyone else heard of this being a factor.

Many thanks

Emma xx

Also, my son is 5, do they have to have any boosters later on in life?

thanks for your help. TT

We've discussed the MMR booster at length & researched on the net & decided that The Boy's not having that for definite.

However, what I hadn't realised, is that they now also give Diptheria, Tetanus & Polio as a three in one jab too.

Have any of your little ones had this? Any adverse effects that you spotted? TBH I think we probably will go with the Dip, Tet and Polio one, but def not MMR.

You don't have to read any further if you don't want to - the rest doesn't give any further info is just me ranting and raving

Just to get it off my chest - my HV is the most patronising, condescending, annoying, git of a woman in the whole world.............and she has a hairy chin. Her first few words to me - just a few weeks after birth of baby when was feeling a bit blue - were all around "what, you're not breast feeding" and "what, you're going back to work" she was all very "I had four children, breast fed them all, gave up my job to stay at home and be a proper mother, brought them up like children should be with mother at home" (presumably scattering errant breast milk all over the place whilst she was at it.)

Bloomin horrible woman. She's just had a go at me on the phone - "I rang you at home, but then I remembered that you are one of those working mums ha ha ha ha". She always does that, makes out it's a joke so it's not actually anything you could report her for.

Then I got

"what, not having the MMR booster? You don't believe it caused your son's autism do you?"

"no, but I am not convinced about the necessity of the booster nor am I sure about how it affects the gut of children that ARE autistic, so we won't be having that one"

"I'll send you a leaflet, that will give you all the information so you can make an informed choice"

I didn't argue. She can send as many flaming leaflets as she wants, but he's still NOT having the MMR.

AND she calls me "dear" on the phone all the time - how annoying is that from someone who's probably only about 5 or 6 years older than me?

Right, done now, feel better, thanks for listening - a response to the earlier question would be much appreciated thankyou!

I also wonder if he's immune to measles then he's likely immune to the others too.

But then I'm not sure what to do about the DTP boosters :-(

I just dont see the point in putting him through any extra stress.

Any thoughts? Opinions??

Lynne x

Edited to add I say again, because they first called him up when he was only 3 and 2 months!! I refused to have it done then.

hi everyone -i recently came across this -i just wondered who else had heard about this ?

ive just looked on the net and never relised before that there was mercury free dentists too,has anybody else looked into this at all?

I had a letter to say mumps is on the increase in our area. Ds had the mmr at 13 months but I did not let him have the booster. I do not blame the mmr for his autisum BUT the seeds of doubt were sown and I felt very strongly he should not have the second jab. My health visitor and the school nurse have been very keen for him to have the booster but my gut says no.

He is a very robust fit and healthy child, so should I worry about mumps?

I worry that by not getting him immunised I run the risk he could catch it, but my gut still says no jab. I feel between a rock and a hard place

He is doing so well, and has progressed so much I am terrified that of anything changing that.

any advice?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-kirby/...ci_b_88323.html

David Kirby

Huffington Post

Thursday, February 28, 2008

After years of insisting there is no evidence to link vaccines with the onset of autism spectrum disorder (ASD), the US government has quietly conceded a vaccine-autism case in the Court of Federal Claims.

The unprecedented concession was filed on November 9, and sealed to protect the plaintiff's identify. It was obtained through individuals unrelated to the case.

The claim, one of 4,900 autism cases currently pending in Federal "Vaccine Court," was conceded by US Assistant Attorney General Peter Keisler and other Justice Department officials, on behalf of the Department of Health and Human Services, the "defendant" in all Vaccine Court cases.

The child's claim against the government -- that mercury-containing vaccines were the cause of her autism -- was supposed to be one of three "test cases" for the thimerosal-autism theory currently under consideration by a three-member panel of Special Masters, the presiding justices in Federal Claims Court.

Keisler wrote that medical personnel at the HHS Division of Vaccine Injury Compensation (DVIC) had reviewed the case and "concluded that compensation is appropriate."

The doctors conceded that the child was healthy and developing normally until her 18-month well-baby visit, when she received vaccinations against nine different diseases all at once (two contained thimerosal).

Days later, the girl began spiraling downward into a cascade of illnesses and setbacks that, within months, presented as symptoms of autism, including: No response to verbal direction; loss of language skills; no eye contact; loss of "relatedness;" insomnia; incessant screaming; arching; and "watching the florescent lights repeatedly during examination."

Seven months after vaccination, the patient was diagnosed by Dr. Andrew Zimmerman, a leading neurologist at the Kennedy Krieger Children's Hospital Neurology Clinic, with "regressive encephalopathy (brain disease) with features consistent with autistic spectrum disorder, following normal development." The girl also met the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual for Mental Disorders (DSM-IV) official criteria for autism.

In its written concession, the government said the child had a pre-existing mitochondrial disorder that was "aggravated" by her shots, and which ultimately resulted in an ASD diagnosis.

"The vaccinations received on July 19, 2000, significantly aggravated an underlying mitochondrial disorder," the concession says, "which predisposed her to deficits in cellular energy metabolism, and manifested as a regressive encephalopathy with features of ASD."

This statement is good news for the girl and her family, who will now be compensated for the lifetime of care she will require. But its implications for the larger vaccine-autism debate, and for public health policy in general, are not as certain.

In fact, the government's concession seems to raise more questions than it answers.

1) Is there a connection between vaccines, mitochondrial disorders and a diagnosis of autism, at least in some cases?

Mitochondria, you may recall from biology class, are the little powerhouses within cells that convert food into electrical energy, partly through a complex process called "oxidative phosphorylation." If this process is impaired, mitochondrial disorder will ensue.

The child in this case had several markers for Mt disease, which was confirmed by muscle biopsy. Mt disease is often marked by lethargy, poor muscle tone, poor food digestion and bowel problems, something found in many children diagnosed with autism.

But mitochondrial disorders are rare in the general population, affecting some 2-per-10,000 people (or just 0.2%). So with 4,900 cases filed in Vaccine Court, this case should be the one and only, extremely rare instance of Mt disease in all the autism proceedings.

But it is not.

Mitochondrial disorders are now thought to be the most common disease associated with ASD. Some journal articles and other analyses have estimated that 10% to 20% of all autism cases may involve mitochondrial disorders, which would make them one thousand times more common among people with ASD than the general population.

Another article, published in the Journal of Child Neurology and co-authored by Dr. Zimmerman, showed that 38% of Kennedy Krieger Institute autism patients studied had one marker for impaired oxidative phosphorylation, and 47% had a second marker.

The authors -- who reported on a case-study of the same autism claim conceded in Vaccine Court -- noted that "children who have (mitochondrial-related) dysfunctional cellular energy metabolism might be more prone to undergo autistic regression between 18 and 30 months of age if they also have infections or immunizations at the same time."

An interesting aspect of Mt disease in autism is that, with ASD, the mitochondrial disease seems to be milder than in "classic" cases of Mt disorder. In fact, classic Mt disease is almost always inherited, either passed down by the mother through mitochondrial DNA, or by both parents through nuclear DNA.

In autism-related Mt disease, however, the disorder is not typically found in other family members, and instead appears to be largely of the sporadic variety, which may now account for 75% of all mitochondrial disorders.

Meanwhile, an informal survey of seven families of children with cases currently pending in Vaccine Court revealed that all seven showed markers for mitochondrial dysfunction, dating back to their earliest medical tests. The facts in all seven claims mirror the case just conceded by the government: Normal development followed by vaccination, immediate illness, and rapid decline culminating in an autism diagnosis.

2) With 4,900 cases pending, and more coming, will the government concede those with underlying Mt disease -- and if it not, will the Court award compensation?

The Court will soon begin processing the 4900 cases pending before it. What if 10% to 20% of them can demonstrate the same Mt disease and same set of facts as those in the conceded case? Would the government be obliged to concede 500, or even 1,000 cases? What impact would that have on public opinion? And is there enough money currently in the vaccine injury fund to cover so many settlements?

When asked for a comment last week about the court settlement, a spokesman for HHS furnished the following written statement:

"DVIC has reviewed the scientific information concerning the allegation that vaccines cause autism and has found no credible evidence to support the claim. Accordingly, in every case under the Vaccine Act, DVIC has maintained the position that vaccines do not cause autism, and has never concluded in any case that autism was caused by vaccination."

3) If the government is claiming that vaccines did not "cause" autism, but instead aggravated a condition to "manifest" as autism, isn't that a very fine distinction?

For most affected families, such linguistic gymnastics is not so important. And even if a vaccine injury "manifested" as autism in only one case, isn't that still a significant development worthy of informing the public?

On the other hand, perhaps what the government is claiming is that vaccination resulted in the symptoms of autism, but not in an actual, factually correct diagnosis of autism itself.

4) If the government is claiming that this child does NOT have autism, then how many other children might also have something else that merely "mimics" autism?

Is it possible that 10%-20% of the cases that we now label as "autism," are not autism at all, but rather some previously undefined "look-alike" syndrome that merely presents as "features" of autism?

This question gets to the heart of what autism actually is. The disorder is defined solely as a collection of features, nothing more. If you have the features (and the diagnosis), you have the disorder. The underlying biology is the great unknown.

But let's say the government does determine that these kids don't have actual "autism" (something I speculated on HuffPost a year ago). Then shouldn't the Feds go back and test all people with ASD for impaired oxidative phosphorylation, perhaps reclassifying many of them?

If so, will we then see "autism" cases drop by tens, if not hundreds of thousands of people? Will there be a corresponding ascension of a newly described disorder, perhaps something like "Vaccine Aggravated Mitochondrial Disease with Features of ASD?"

And if this child was technically "misdiagnosed" with DSM-IV autism by Dr Zimmerman, how does he feel about HHS doctors issuing a second opinion re-diagnosis of his patient, whom they presumably had neither met nor examined? (Zimmerman declined an interview).

And along those lines, aren't Bush administration officials somewhat wary of making long-distance, retroactive diagnoses from Washington, given that the Terry Schiavo incident has not yet faded from national memory?

5) Was this child's Mt disease caused by a genetic mutation, as the government implies, and wouldn't that have manifested as "ASD features" anyway?

In the concession, the government notes that the patient had a "single nucleotide change" in the mitochondrial DNA gene T2387C, implying that this was the underlying cause of her manifested "features" of autism.

While it's true that some inherited forms of Mt disease can manifest as developmental delays, (and even ASD in the form of Rhett Syndrome) these forms are linked to identified genetic mutations, of which T2387C is not involved. In fact little, if anything, is known about the function of this particular gene.

What's more, there is no evidence that this girl, prior to vaccination, suffered from any kind of "disorder" at all- genetic, mitochondrial or otherwise. Some forms of Mt disease are so mild that the person is unaware of being affected. This perfectly developing girl may have had Mt disorder at the time of vaccination, but nobody detected, or even suspected it.

And, there is no evidence to suggest that this girl would have regressed into symptoms consistent with a DSM-IV autism diagnosis without her vaccinations. If there was such evidence, then why on earth would these extremely well-funded government attorneys compensate this alleged injury in Vaccine Court? Why wouldn't they move to dismiss, or at least fight the case at trial?

6) What are the implications for research?

The concession raises at least two critical research questions: What are the causes of Mt dysfunction; and how could vaccines aggravate that dysfunction to the point of "autistic features?"

While some Mt disorders are clearly inherited, the "sporadic" form is thought to account for 75% of all cases, according to the United Mitochondrial Disease Foundation. So what causes sporadic Mt disease? "Medicines or other toxins," says the Cleveland Clinic, a leading authority on the subject.

Use of the AIDS drug AZT, for example, can cause Mt disorders by deleting large segments of mitochondrial DNA. If that is the case, might other exposures to drugs or toxins (i.e., thimerosal, mercury in fish, air pollution, pesticides, live viruses) also cause sporadic Mt disease in certain subsets of children, through similar genotoxic mechanisms?

Among the prime cellular targets of mercury are mitochondria, and thimerosal-induced cell death has been associated with the depolarization of mitochondrial membrane, according to the International Journal of Molecular Medicine among several others. (Coincidently, the first case of Mt disease was diagnosed in 1959, just 15 years after the first autism case was named, and two decades after thimerosal's introduction as a vaccine preservative.)

Regardless of its cause, shouldn't HHS sponsor research into Mt disease and the biological mechanisms by which vaccines could aggravate the disorder? We still do not know what it was, exactly, about this girl's vaccines that aggravated her condition. Was it the thimerosal? The three live viruses? The two attenuated viruses? Other ingredients like aluminum? A combination of the above?

And of course, if vaccine injuries can aggravate Mt disease to the point of manifesting as autism features, then what other underlying disorders or conditions (genetic, autoimmune, allergic, etc.) might also be aggravated to the same extent?

7) What are the implications for medicine and public health?

Should the government develop and approve new treatments for "aggravated mitochondrial disease with ASD features?" Interestingly, many of the treatments currently deployed in Mt disease (i.e., coenzyme Q10, vitamin B-12, lipoic acid, biotin, dietary changes, etc.) are part of the alternative treatment regimen that many parents use on their children with ASD.

And, if a significant minority of autism cases can be linked to Mt disease and vaccines, shouldn't these products one day carry an FDA Black Box warning label, and shouldn't children with Mt disorders be exempt from mandatory immunization?

8) What are the implications for the vaccine-autism debate?

It's too early to tell. But this concession could conceivably make it more difficult for some officials to continue insisting there is "absolutely no link" between vaccines and autism.

It also puts the Federal Government's Vaccine Court defense strategy somewhat into jeopardy. DOJ lawyers and witnesses have argued that autism is genetic, with no evidence to support an environmental component. And, they insist, it's simply impossible to construct a chain of events linking immunizations to the disorder.

Government officials may need to rethink their legal strategy, as well as their public relations campaigns, given their own slightly contradictory concession in this case.

9) What is the bottom line here?

The public, (including world leaders) will demand to know what is going on inside the US Federal health establishment. Yes, as of now, n=1, a solitary vaccine-autism concession. But what if n=10% or 20%? Who will pay to clean up that mess?

The significance of this concession will unfortunately be fought over in the usual, vitriolic way -- and I fully expect to be slammed for even raising these questions. Despite that, the language of this concession cannot be changed, or swept away.

Its key words are "aggravated" and "manifested." Without the aggravation of the vaccines, it is uncertain that the manifestation would have occurred at all.

When a kid with peanut allergy eats a peanut and dies, we don't say "his underlying metabolic condition was significantly aggravated to the extent of manifesting as an anaphylactic shock with features of death."

No, we say the peanut killed the poor boy. Remove the peanut from the equation, and he would still be with us today.

Many people look forward to hearing more from HHS officials about why they are settling this claim. But whatever their explanation, they cannot change the fundamental facts of this extraordinary case:

The United State government is compensating at least one child for vaccine injuries that resulted in a diagnosis of autism.

Would clinics that do the single injections check immunity levels? I dont mind having to pay. I'm going to hold off on giving it at the moment anyway because he's only three, and I have till before he starts school at 5.

The immunisology dept just gave my GP the spiel about how the get the boosters because the original can wear off in 10-20 years etc so they recommend giving it ...

Lynne x

We are not going to get Mumps or Rubella done, as they aren't so life threatening (I dont believe measles is either and am guilty of reacting to the hype a little).

Can anyone shed any light on why the mumps is more expensive .. they want ?120 for that one.

Also, did anyones child have a reaction to a single measles vaccination.

I am actually dreading it ... I still have guilt over my other son having the MMR.

The Times

April 03, 2006

Decline in MMR uptake blamed for measles death

By Nicola Woolcock and Nigel Hawkes Health Editor

A FALL in the number of parents allowing their children to have the combined measles, mumps and rubella vaccine has been blamed for a resurgence of measles that has claimed the life of a 13-year-old boy.

More people have been infected in the first three months of this year than the whole of 2005, and at least 30 children have caught measles in a single outbreak in South Yorkshire.

The teenager is Britain?s first fatality in 14 years.

Immunisation rates here, eight years after the first scare over the combined measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine, are among the lowest in Western Europe. Fears that the triple jab could lead to autism caused take-up to fall from over 90 per cent in 1998 to less than 80 per cent two years ago. Currently, 81 per cent of children have the combined vaccine before they are two; many European countries achieve the 95 per cent coverage recommended by the World Health Organisation to prevent outbreaks.

The 13-year-old who died last month lived in a travellers? community. It is thought that he had a weakened immune system; he was being treated for a lung condition. The boy died of an infection of the central nervous system caused by a reaction to the measles virus. The Health Protection Agency described his death as shocking.

There have been 100 cases of measles this year, compared with 77 in all of last year. Of the 72 cases of measles confirmed by the middle of last month nine patients were hospitalised.

A number of cases were among the travelling community, which has a low uptake of MMR vaccine. Two jabs are needed to give complete protection and, of the 72 confirmed cases, two children had received only the first injection.

Many parents now opt for single vaccines against measles, mumps and rubella rather than the combined jab. This year three patients caught measles despite having had single-vaccine jabs. Two of these were given in South Africa.

In the Doncaster outbreak, 32 cases have been confirmed and 36 are being investigated.The first infections developed among children at the same playgroup who, at less than a year old, were too young to have had the MMR jab. The disease has now spread to older children and nearby areas.

Dr Wendy Phillips, a consultant in communicable disease control for the Health Protection Agency, said: ?People with measles are very infectious ? particularly from the start of symptoms to about four days after the rash develops. You can be very infectious before you even realise you have measles; once measles gets into a community, it spreads very quickly to anyone who is not protected.?

After the MMR jab was introduced in 1988, immunisation among British children at the age of 2 rose from about 75 per cent to 92 per cent. By 2004 developed countries such as Germany and Spain had an immunisation rate of more than 90 per cent, but Britain?s had fallen to 80 per cent. However, uptake is rising: provisional figures indicate that about 82 per cent of children are now vaccinated with MMR. There are no figures showing how many have had individual vaccines.

Despite popular belief that measles has been eradicated in the developed world, a substantial number of people still catch it. In 2004 France had 4,448 cases and Germany had 121.

Complications include severe coughs and breathing difficulties, ear and eye infections and pneumonia. Rarely, there can be serious complications affecting the brain and nervous system.

The Health Protection Agency said: ?We would urge parents to have their children vaccinated with MMR.?

� More than 1,000 staff at the Central Middlesex Hospital in northwest London were being vaccinated last night after a measles outbreak. Six nurses were in isolation after catching the disease from two children recently admitted to the hospital.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/arti...74&in_a_source=

?No one in my lab wants to get vaccinated,? he said. ?This totally creeped us out. We weren?t out there to poke holes in vaccines. But all of a sudden, oh my God?we?ve got neuron death!?

http://www.straight.com/content.cfm?id=16717

SAN FRANCISCO - Chiron Corp. on Thursday recalled and withdrew a childhood vaccine sold in Italy and other foreign countries, compounding the biotech company's headaches as it recovers from a recent production shortage of flu shots.

The Emeryville-based company's latest slip affects about 5million doses of Chiron's measles, mumps and rubella vaccine, called Morupar.

 

The vaccine is used in Italy, Syria, Jordan and a variety of smaller countries that receive the drug through the United Nation's Children's Fund and Pan American Health Organization.

 

Italy determined five patients immunized with Morupar suffered adverse reactions, including fever and swelling glands, commonly associated with the vaccine, company spokeswoman Alison Marquiss said.

 

The same pattern hasn't been cropping up with MMR vaccines made by two other manufacturers, prompting the Italian Medicine Agency to order a withdrawal of Chiron's product from the market to protect the public's health.

 

In a statement, Chiron described the recall and withdrawal as precautionary and emphasized there's no reason to believe patients already immunized with Morupar face any long-term health risks.

 

Chiron's woes with its flu vaccine have been more severe, reducing the company's sales by more than $250 million during the past two years.

 

In 2004, Chiron triggered a public health panic after contamination concerns at an England plant prevented the company from delivering 50million flu shots - about half of the national stockpile.

 

Chiron has agreed to be acquired by Swiss drug maker Novartis AG, but four Chiron shareholders with a combined 17.5 percent stake in the company believe the sales price of $5.1 billion is too low.

 

A shareholder vote is scheduled April 12. Federal regulators already have approved the proposed Novartis takeover.

 

Chiron's shares fell 19 cents to close at $45.51 Thursday on the Nasdaq Stock Market.

It protects against measles, mumps, rubella and chickenpox in one shot.

http://www.healthfinder.gov/news/newsstory.asp?docID=527838

H.

I emailed and was sent information and a consent form to sign. The researcher then arranged to conduct a telephone interview, which was taped (with my consent) and it took about an hour. The researcher wanted my ideas and views on health and vaccinations and how I came to make the decisions about not having the jabs. Also how others viewed my decison and how I feel about decisions I have made in the past. She was probably sorry she asked

The study is being done by the University of Edinburgh, Public Health Sciences. It was nice to be able to talk about my experiences and views without being defensive. I don't know what the research will lead to, but maybe the fact that this study has got funding is a hopeful sign?

By accident I found an article about the adrenal glands and it has got me thinking about whether it could in some cases be a factor in late onset autism, or - because they are involved with sex hormone production - problems worsening at puberty. It might have a bearing on vaccination during puberty.

As the adrenals produce the "flight or fright" stress hormones, vaccination itself must be a big stress. The body goes to great lengths to protect the blood stream from sharp objects by having such as thicker skin under the soles of the feet etc, arteries and veins inside the body. Although there are risk areas such as wrists etc, on the whole the body tries to protect the internal organs and blood supply. With invasion by bacterial and viral contaminants the body has the skin as a barrier and if swallowed the body has a chance to vomit or eliminate from the bowel. Same with swallowed heavy metals. Then the body has its own built in chelation kit, via the hair.

So what effect would bacterial/viral contaminants, mercury maybe but it could be any other vaccine filler, plus the shock of a needle being put through a major sense organ like the skin have on the adrenal glands? Already stressed adrenals (for whatever reason) could need to shut down maybe, causing stress related behaviours. It could be the individual response to the stress of vaccination itself, and or any particular component of the vaccine.

As "flight or fright" takes priority over immune function and elimination, maybe in some cases improving the health of the adrenal glands might in turn help immune function and chelation via the hair?

The other interesting thing in the article was the effect of adrenal problems on the muscles, particularly causing tension in the "flight or fright" muscles in the legs, one of which is the muscle responsible for walking on your toes.

Anyway the article is at http://www.tuberose.com/Adrenal_Glands.html if anyone is interested.

Just had a letter from A's residential school offering flu jabs. He is 16.

Earlier on in the year I politely refused the MMR that the school also offered, as I felt that it was unnecessary as he'd had all his relevant jabs when he was younger (in the days before any concerns about MMR and autism).

I don't really know much about the flu jab. Are there any concerns over this one?

I'm wary of posting on the JABS website as I have found in the past that many of the posters there have very extreme views (only my opinion...hope I haven't offended anyone!)

I think I will get a more balanced view from you guys!

Thanks for any thoughts on this one!

Bid

http://www.melaniephillips.com/articles/archives/001468.html

I had a letter from my GP earlier this week to take my son for his booster shots. He's now nearly 4 & half.

These are for DIP, TET, PERT, Polio & 2nd MMR, so to me it sounds like he's going to be given all of these in one shot.

I remember something in the media a few weeks ago about the 5 in 1 jab, but lo and behold, they've counted the MMR as one, rather than the 3 in 1 it really is.

I can't understand what the government think they're doing. Surely if people are suspicious of a 3 in 1 jab, aren't they going to even more suspicious of a 7 in 1 jab???

Although I believe that immunisation is a good thing, I would never forgive myself if this jab had a detrimental affect on my son.

I would like to know what others think about this.

Take a look:

http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/eletters/328/7430/51#85456