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      Depression, Mental Health and Crisis Support   06/04/2017

      Depression, Mental Health and Crisis Support   Depression and other mental health difficulties are common amongst people on the autistic spectrum and their carers.   People who are affected by general mental health difficulties are encouraged to receive and share information, support and advice with other forum members, though it is important to point out that this exchange of information is generally based on personal experience and opinions, and is not a substitute for professional medical help.   There is a list of sources of mental health support here: <a href="http://www.asd-forum.org.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=18801" target="_blank">Mental Health Resources link</a>   People may experience a more serious crisis with their mental health and need urgent medical assistance and advice. However well intentioned, this is not an area of support that the forum can or should be attempting to offer and we would urge members who are feeling at risk of self-harm or suicide to contact either their own GP/health centre, or if out of hours contact NHS Direct on 0845 4647 or to call emergency services 999.   We want to reassure members that they have our full support in offering and seeking advice and information on general mental health issues. Members asking for information in order to help a person in their care are seeking to empower both themselves and those they represent, and we would naturally welcome any such dialogue on the forum.   However, any posts which are deemed to contain inference of personal intent to self-harm and/or suicide will be removed from the forum and that person will be contacted via the pm system with advice on where to seek appropriate help.   In addition to the post being removed, if a forum member is deemed to indicate an immediate risk to themselves, and are unable to be contacted via the pm system, the moderating team will take steps to ensure that person's safety. This may involve breaking previous confidentiality agreements and/or contacting the emergency services on that person's behalf.   Sometimes posts referring to self-harm do not indicate an immediate risk, but they may contain material which others find inappropriate or distressing. This type of post will also be removed from the public forum at the moderator's/administrator's discretion, considering the forum user base as a whole.   If any member receives a PM indicating an immediate risk and is not in a position (or does not want) to intervene, they should forward the PM to the moderating team, who will deal with the disclosure in accordance with the above guidelines.   We trust all members will appreciate the reasoning behind these guidelines, and our intention to urge any member struggling with suicidal feelings to seek and receive approproiate support from trained and experienced professional resources.   The forum guidelines have been updated to reflect the above.   Regards,   The mod/admin team

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  1. Birthday anxiety

    Hi everyone, My birthday is coming up in a couple of weeks and I'm already getting anxious about it. My fear is that I will be alone on my birthday, but typical birthday socialising comes with so much expectation that it usually ends in disappointment, which won't be great either! I'd really like to go out for the day with my boyfriend, but before he knew the date of my birthday he already made plans to travel to see his friend on that day because it's also her birthday and she's having a party. He's promised to do something with me the following day, which I understand is perfectly reasonable and fair. I'm not mad/upset/annoyed or anything with him- he's done nothing wrong- I'm just worried that it will leave me alone and very depressed on my birthday. I do have one good friend I could see, but she works during the day and she lives out of town, so if I spent the evening with her she'd have to stay at my place, which I'd really struggle with. I could visit my parents so I don't have to be alone, but I did that the last couple of years and it just felt a bit... tragic. I wish I didn't have a birthday, it would be so much easier! I could pretend I don't, but I'd know really, and it makes me sad that most people can have so much fun on their birthdays when I have to pretend it's not happening. Does anyone have any suggestions how I could make it easier? Anyone have similar problems?
  2. Optimal Outcome

    @ Lyndalou very well put, I completely agree! When I first read about the report in the newspaper I was really concerned about the effect it would have on public awareness of autism- particularly of high-functioning types as in personal experience it's often difficult to be taken seriously as it is! I think the perception of autism as an 'illness' that can be 'cured' is a potentially dangerous one, Even if it were possible to completely remove all autistic traits to make a person 'normal', there's the question of whether it really would be as straightforward as treating an 'illness', or whether it would be a complete reversal/reassignment of a personality. And how far would it go, beyond autism? Would they try to change any remotely 'abnormal' traits in anybody, to make them fit better with their definition of normal? Scary stuff :/ '
  3. Aspergers and Identity

    Lots of interesting posts! @Linnet it happens a lot to me too that I get told I'm a very feminine and delicate person, when on the inside I feel much more masculine than most other girls! Although I do wear skirts and makeup and things I do seem to think much more logically and my interests are much more typically male. I get called 'cute' all the time and it drives me nuts! When I was little I really wanted to be a boy and would wear my brother's clothes- I used to love it when people thought I was a boy. My gender identity has always been a little shaky, I guess. Last year in my art degree I did a whole project on androgyny, and loved dressing up ambiguously! I think in an ideal world I'd be male some days and female other days... I think in reality that would be too confusing for people though! @Lyndalou I really like the idea of 'reinvention' you talk about, and I think this is something I can really relate to- as although I feel like my sense of identity is in constant flux from time to time I'll completely reinvent my look/outlook. Also the fact that you're 'drawn to' butterflies- me too! My flat is decorated with butterflies, I have butterfly clothes and jewellery and they seem to pop up in my art work too. I never really noticed until someone said to me 'you really are obsessed with butterflies, aren't you?' haha. @watergirl nice tattoo! And I totally agree- my mental image of myself is different to what I see in the mirror too. It's interesting that they were thinking of dxing you with borderline personality disorder, but settled on Aspergers- you'd think they'd be so completely different that they'd be easy to distinguish! Before I was dx'd I always wondered if I had something like that.
  4. Aspergers and Identity

    Hi folks, I've just been reading an article in the latest New Scientist about the idea of the 'self' and it's really got me thinking... When I was diagnosed I spoke to the people who gave me the diagnosis a lot about the fact that I have no stable sense of identity, and change depending on what the situation calls for. Apparently this is a common feeling among aspies- in females in particular. In this article it talks about 3 core beliefs that determine the sense of self, one of them being 'continuity'- the sense that the person you are today is the same person you were yesterday. While I think this is true for me on the whole, I feel like my sense of identity- and in fact 'self'- changes dramatically on a day-to-day basis, much more so than for my NT friends and family. In myself I'm fairly comfortable with this, but the times when it becomes a source of anxiety are when people I know and love are confused by it. Over time the changeability of my personality seems to have alienated a lot of people, I guess because it's probably difficult for them to see me as 'genuine', or the person they get attached to can so quickly seem to become someone else. I'm just wondering what other people's experiences of this might be? Do other aspies have a comparatively stable sense of identity, or feel a bit confused? Or does anyone have any interesting links/info on the subject?
  5. Trouble sleeping?

    Hi Thanks for your suggestions! I tried out a few of the things you suggested last night- herbal tablets, no sugar or caffeine, no TV, and an eye cover- and it worked! I was asleep by 1am (as opposed to the usual 5am)! So thanks all for the help :D I'll try this every night now xx
  6. Trouble sleeping?

    Hi Does anyone else have trouble sleeping, or difficulty maintaining a normal sleep pattern? I mentioned it to my doctor and her reaction was "Ah yes, lots of people with Aspergers have difficulty sleeping," but she didn't offer any solutions. Once I get to sleep I'm fine, but it seems that I'm falling asleep later and later. and it's really starting to affect how I'm able to function during the day. I do lots of exercise so that shouldn't be an issue, and I also wear earplugs to bed so that I can't be distracted by noise, but as yet I haven't been able to find anything that really helps all that much. Anyone have any particular tricks they use themselves? (It's not at all coincidental that I'm posting this at 1.35am!) Thanks guys
  7. (Late) Introduction :D

    Hi everyone thanks for the welcome!
  8. I am so Depressed. I have Aspergers?

    No problem I'm glad it's been helpful. Hmmm can't think of a good way to say this, but it's meant to be constructive more than a criticism: Do you think it's possible that you think you're judged by other people because you're quite quick to judge others yourself? It sounds like you have strong opinions about those around you, perhaps without getting to know them better first? I ask because I know it's something I do a lot (I often assume I understand people's motivations, and that they're the same as my own, but later find out I was wrong), and perhaps if you gave them more of a chance you might believe they will give you a chance too? I used to worry about it a lot, but over time I've realised that people don't put half as much thought into judging me as I fear- most people are far too lazy! I'll PM you about my age etc- I don't mind telling you but I feel uncomfortable about posting that stuff on the open forum! Also, I introduced myself in a post in the Meet n Greet section a couple of days ago
  9. I am so Depressed. I have Aspergers?

    Perhaps learning to drive would open up a few more options for you? If you're planning on carrying on living in that area with your parents and you don't like walking around there it sounds like a good solution. It would also mean you could get out and go to some classes, or just find somewhere quiet to relax! As you're studying I imagine paying for lessons etc would be difficult, but maybe if you could explain to your parents how helpful it would be for you- and perhaps even for them!- they would be willing to help you out. It would also give you something to look forward to and focus on in the the short-term, and a sense of achievement when you pass your test! Is it that you would like to socialise but are afraid of experiencing the same feeling of rejection, or is it more that you want to feel more comfortable with your own company? Do you have a specific interest that you can dedicate your time to, so that you can feel like your alone time is purposeful without the need for other people to be involved? That's why I got a little flat all to myself and I even pay less than my friends in shared accommodation!
  10. I am so Depressed. I have Aspergers?

    Are you planning on going to uni once you've finished your A levels? The environment there tends to be quieter and more focussed, and I've personally found that my uni has really good support for Aspergers. I've also had the opportunity to meet other aspies through a social group for students with ASDs that's part of the uni's student union. It's not without it's own difficulties, but I've found it to be a big improvement on college and school life. I've also had the same problem of not being able to relate to others in regional Aspergers groups. In the meantime maybe you could try to join a local group/society specific to your hobbies or interests? You might meet people of a wider range of age and experience, and might benefit from socialising with people more mature than the ones you've been having difficulties with. I don't really socialise much but I go to martial arts every day, and I find that it fulfils my social needs, as well as keeping me fit (which really helps against depression) and helping to improve coordination. Hope that helps
  11. Hi The way it was described to me by the people who diagnosed me was that we feel empathy but may lack the social skills and body language to communicate it effectively. I think that's definitely the case for me, because like you both I seem to feel it more intensely than most people but other people still see me as cold and unable to empathise.
  12. (Late) Introduction :D

    Hi all! I've posted on the forum a few times, but have never properly introduced myself, so here goes I'm 22, female, late diagnosed aspie (got my dx the day after my 21st birthday). Was recently told I have ADHD but I remain sceptical... Totally obsessed with TV series'- especially the long-running US ones. X Files, Stargate, Buffy, Angel, Revenge, American Horror Story... I won't give you the full list, it's a long one haha. Big sci-fi fan (2001 Space Odyssey and the original Solaris AWESOME). Wide-ranging taste in music. Huge martial arts enthusiast- kickboxing, jeet kune do, eskrima, muay thai etc etc (participating rather than watching) I train up to 16hrs/week and it's massively helped with confidence-building and controlling OCD behaviours, and life in general lol. Full-time I'm a fine art student, although I'm blatantly on the wrong course since I'm like the least artistic person ever! (I can draw well, but turns out that's not the same as being creative ) Oh and I have awesome bright orange hair So yeh, that's me! I'm looking forward to getting more involved with the forum and chatting to you all xx
  13. Myers Briggs Personality Type Indicator.

    I've taken the test several times over the last couple of years (apparently the result can change quite a lot) and have always come out as INTJ
  14. ADHD worth diagnosis?

    Thanks for the replies and for the welcome, Merry! I have actually been formally diagnosed with Aspergers, but it's interesting to know that many of the traits I've been told would be attributed to ADHD fall under the AS characteristics anyway. I'm still learning about my dx and what it means- and especially how to manage it in day-to-day life. From how you describe yourself (Merry) it sounds like we're very similar! And I also feel that getting diagnosed was life-changing in a positive way too. Hopefully the impact will continue to improve things though. At the moment it seems to be more of a battle to get other people to understand- or at least acknowledge- what it means. My experience of the forum so far has been great, and I intend to stick around!
  15. ADHD worth diagnosis?

    Following some tests I was recently told that I might have ADHD in some form, and that I might like to seek an official diagnosis. I don't really know an awful lot about it, and have found a lot of the literature online very confusing. I was very surprised to hear that I might have it, as it's never something I've really noticed in myself. In public I am very quiet, and my behaviour tends to be very rigid- which is not something I would have associated with ADHD. I even sit on my hands to stop any awkward movement. When I'm with people I'm very comfortable with, however, they see the full picture of my personality. The 'me' that these people see has wild mood swings, going from *very* hyper to extremely lethargic. I make rash impulsive decisions, and am incredibly disorganised. I tend to have difficulty looking after myself because I struggle to keep a tidy house, make food etc, although other people never see or believe this because I always appear well-dressed and groomed when I leave the house (and I never let people in my house). One of the reasons my ex-boyfriend broke up with me was because he felt like he was looking after me all the time, was always responsible for chores etc, and couldn't cope with my 'craziness'. I am also constantly late, and lose friends quickly because I'm so unreliable. I have trouble at uni in lectures because I can't listen to what the speaker is saying unless they're talking about something of very specific interest to me. In the past this has sometimes led to disruptive, rude behaviour, but I feel I have that in check now. Before I thought I couldn't listen because I had some sort of processing issue with speech- if something is written down I find it much easier to process than if it's said to me. But this doesn't account for the fact that it's not so bad if it's something I'm intensely interested in. And also the recent tests have shown that my attention span is very low across the board- not just with listening to speech but also in problem solving tasks etc too. They also showed that I'm very impulsive, confirming what I knew from past experience and the opinions of friends and family. Despite this, I'm still very sceptical of the idea that I might have it (mainly because I'm not sure whether a lot of these traits could be explained by my dx of AS anyway), and would feel very uncomfortable about seeking an ADHD dx as I don't want to be wasting anybody's time if it turns out to be false. Being diagnosed might be helpful as it might allow me to address problems at uni and at home, but there is no guarantee of this. And frankly, if I ask about a dx but get told I obviously don't have it, I'm going to feel like a complete idiot and will spend ages being very hard on myself about it!! So, would it be worth seeking a diagnosis? Is it even possible that I could have it, considering the lack of publicly obvious symptoms? Any advice would be much appreciated thanks.
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