maths

[noogsy]

hi all.louis is having problems visualising maths.he is totally at a loss with long division.a specialist who has spent time with louis told his teacher he learns maths though calculus?....the teachers have no idea how to teach him?...the teachers have tried all the normal ways of explaining...ie with bricks.and lou just doesnt get it.he is mad about science but if his maths doesnt improve he will not cope with doing science at high school.he is very articulate but is struggling with maths..does enyone know of a visual way ,website or anything that can help louis learn maths...any ideas would be appreciated...love noogsy..xxx...even if i have to pay for programes

[oxgirl]

hi all.louis is having problems visualising maths.he is totally at a loss with long division.a specialist who has spent time with louis told his teacher he learns maths though calculus?....the teachers have no idea how to teach him?...the teachers have tried all the normal ways of explaining...ie with bricks.and lou just doesnt get it.he is mad about science but if his maths doesnt improve he will not cope with doing science at high school.he is very articulate but is struggling with maths..does enyone know of a visual way ,website or anything that can help louis learn maths...any ideas would be appreciated...love noogsy..xxx...even if i have to pay for programes

 

 

I'll watch your threat with interest, because my lad is exactly the same. He's top of his whole year in science, gets 98% in all his tests, etc. but struggles with maths. He's 13 and I'm still struggling to get him to learn his tables, he's just so slow. He's also very ariticulate. <'>

 

~ Mel ~

[Canopus]

he learns maths though calculus?

 

What does this mean? You can learn about calculus but you can't learn maths through calculus. In England, calculus is covered only at A Level and not GCSE level.

[noogsy]

louis doesnt actually do calculus.(you are being literal...lol...)louis likes number to have a order.as long as he cans see a pattern he is happy,as soon as there are odd numbers or there is no pattern he is stumped because he cant see a reason for there to be a answer.....he learns things in blocks...calculus is a term used for high mathematics but it can also cover basic operations for maths but somtimes in a diffrent format....im copying from a letter just in case everyone thinks im all clever....im not...but my child is... love noogsy

[Kazzen161]

>>He's 13 and I'm still struggling to get him to learn his tables

 

If he knows his 2 and 5 times tables, he can just draw up a times tables square once he is in the exam.

3x = 1x + 2x

4x = 2x + 2x

6x = 1x + 5x

7x = 2x + 5x

8x = 5x + 3x

9x = 5x + 4x

This is what my son did. He got a B in Science and a D in Maths.

 

http://skoool.co.uk/logon.aspx?ReturnUrl=%2findex.aspx

 

is a good site for Ks3/4 maths (and science).

 

There are some reasonable maths programmes for schools on BBC2 - these are very visual and child friendly.

 

Karen

[oxgirl]

>>He's 13 and I'm still struggling to get him to learn his tables

 

If he knows his 2 and 5 times tables, he can just draw up a times tables square once he is in the exam.

3x = 1x + 2x

4x = 2x + 2x

6x = 1x + 5x

7x = 2x + 5x

8x = 5x + 3x

9x = 5x + 4x

This is what my son did. He got a B in Science and a D in Maths.

 

http://skoool.co.uk/logon.aspx?ReturnUrl=%2findex.aspx

 

is a good site for Ks3/4 maths (and science).

 

There are some reasonable maths programmes for schools on BBC2 - these are very visual and child friendly.

 

Karen

 

 

Thanks Karen, I'll look in that

 

~ Mel ~

[OPooh]

as soon as there are odd numbers or there is no pattern he is stumped because he cant see a reason for there to be a answer.....

 

the beauty of maths though is there is ALWAYS a reason for the answer. Just needs a good mathematician to explain what the reason is maybe?

[madme]

My son also has a dx of Dyscalculia. Steve Chinn has written some very simple but helpful books about learning maths - My son now gets specialist help from a teacher who has had training and experience of dyscalculia- finally he appears to be making some way forward. He is now actually enjoying his 1-1 maths lessons which for us is a real breakthrough. At 11 he is three years behind in maths . Your son sounds similar. Mine also loves science and gota alevel 5 at KS2 in that and english. Until now he hated maths and woud get headaches just looking at times tables. Im afraid that I dont know how exactly he is taught but I believe that they do employ some of Steve Chinn's methods.Good luck.

[Devon mum]

My DS1 and my DD struggle a lot more with numbers than DS2.

 

We are at the moment trying to learn the 3x with DD

She has only just managed to get to grips with her 2x and the teacher was surprised that she had not managed to learn 3x in 3 weeks ?????

She seemed almost afraid of numbers and did not want to sit and focus on a list of numbers, so I had to some up with something for her.

 

I started with an A4 sheet with all the table questions from 1x1 up to 12x12.

Then I did one with all the answers on it.

I cut them all out and taped them back together then glued them to a large sheet of paper, so we had 12 lift the flap table lines. Not in a block but in a wavy set out pattern.

 

Then I made 24 (3 cm square) cubes from cereal boxes.

I then printed out all the table questions again but all in different colours.

I stuck 1x1, 1x2 ... 1x6 on the first cube and on the 24th cube I stuck 12x7, 12x8 ...12x12

 

The idea is that they throw the cubes on the floor then pick them up 1 by 1 and see if they know the answer.

If they don't know the answers they go to the lift up flaps and find the answers.

 

Well I was amazed! They all love them.

 

DD worked out 12x8 all on her own ... I nearly fell off my settee!!!

She loves the 11's and is seeing the patterns in some of the other tables too.

 

There is no way that any of them would want to sit to write the answers to 24 sums, but the boys will ask to do two lots ... not every day mind you.

 

This took hours and hours but I feel it was worth it, they may not be learning quite the way school wants but it certainly has taken the boredom and pain out of tables for my lot!

[noogsy]

thanks everyone who has replied.devon mum this is the kind of thing i think i am looking for.somthing that is fun and helps the kids learn maths.i feel im losing the will to live and im out of my depth.its so hard because i dont want to force him.i will also find out about specialised teachers...if anyone knows of anything eles,im all ears....love noogsy

[oxgirl]

My DS1 and my DD struggle a lot more with numbers than DS2.

 

We are at the moment trying to learn the 3x with DD

She has only just managed to get to grips with her 2x and the teacher was surprised that she had not managed to learn 3x in 3 weeks ?????

She seemed almost afraid of numbers and did not want to sit and focus on a list of numbers, so I had to some up with something for her.

 

I started with an A4 sheet with all the table questions from 1x1 up to 12x12.

Then I did one with all the answers on it.

I cut them all out and taped them back together then glued them to a large sheet of paper, so we had 12 lift the flap table lines. Not in a block but in a wavy set out pattern.

 

Then I made 24 (3 cm square) cubes from cereal boxes.

I then printed out all the table questions again but all in different colours.

I stuck 1x1, 1x2 ... 1x6 on the first cube and on the 24th cube I stuck 12x7, 12x8 ...12x12

 

The idea is that they throw the cubes on the floor then pick them up 1 by 1 and see if they know the answer.

If they don't know the answers they go to the lift up flaps and find the answers.

 

Well I was amazed! They all love them.

 

DD worked out 12x8 all on her own ... I nearly fell off my settee!!!

She loves the 11's and is seeing the patterns in some of the other tables too.

 

There is no way that any of them would want to sit to write the answers to 24 sums, but the boys will ask to do two lots ... not every day mind you.

 

This took hours and hours but I feel it was worth it, they may not be learning quite the way school wants but it certainly has taken the boredom and pain out of tables for my lot!

 

Wow, what a super duper idea, aren't you clever!! I've got a times table poster stuck on J's wall, but he never looks at it. I think I might get in there with my scissors right this very minute and chop it up and convert it into a lift the flap jobby!! <'>

 

~ Mel ~