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Hi

I was wondering if any one had ever been on a Webster stratton behaviour course and if so did you find any of it useful for your child with autism? My ds is 5 (severe autism and SLD) and he has some pretty extreme behaviours when things don't go his way. e.g. kicking biting hitting.... My other ds who is 7 (supposedly nt) is not the easiest little boy but not so bad at home but has real problems at school. My friend is going on a course to help with her 3yr old tantrums and I impulsively said I'd go with her but just wondered if it would be worth it or not. I know it's meant really for nt children with behavioural difficulties but wondered if anyone had had a good experience (or otherwise!) of it with their children with autism

Thankyou! Elun :D xxx

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I haven't, but I'd love to find out more - from a school perspective as well. I have read some very good reports on it, and it seems to be very effective with children who have EBD, or developmental delays. But the reports don't say what the method is or how it works (I suppose they couldn't make money if it was any other way). It should be worth your while going.

In my LA, all schools operate on the Assertive Discipline method - which is great for the average, but doesn't really cater to EBD or additional support needs.

If you do go on the course, let me know how it went, and what it's all about.

It could be a large chunk of my CPD ;) .

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im actually trained in delivering the webster stratton and although I think its great for some parents Im not convinced its right for children with asd, having said that provided you have a good sound knowledge of asd and differentiate the stratergies to suit your child I think a lot of the behavioural techniques are useful to all parents. one of the stratergies is descriptive dialougue, which basically means that you constantly talk to the child about what they are doing e.g. "I see you are palying with the truck and you are pushing it into the garage." its meant to show the child that you are interested in what they are doing and theoretically helps to build the relationship between you and your child, in some ways I can see this being useful for some children with asd to help with their communication difficulties but I also know that this may just appear as constant chatter to some children and an onslaught to their senses and might not be able to be tollerated.

 

I think on this one my advice would be go along and see what its all about, explain to the practitioner about ds5 and your concerns.at the end take from it what you think will be useful and you cant really loose. but with all the parenting courses they come as a whole package and its dangerous to just go to one or two then drop out as you really need to see it through because its usually not til right at the end that all the pieces fit together like a jigsaw

 

hope that all makes sense but if you want to know any more about the course pm me and I'll do my best to help

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I have HUGE concerns about this being used for children with ASD. Even Webster Stratton say that as of yet there have not been enough trials to suggest that this works for children with ASD, although they do say that they will gain something from the programme. Well I gain weight if I eat too many cakes but is it a positive gain? It is my understanding gained by communication with Webster Stratton that there is no one in the UK who has been specially trained to differentiate this programme for children with ASD.

 

Cat

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Thanks for that.

Think I'm going to go because even if it doesn't help with ds with autism if I get some ideas to help with my other ds or children that I teach it will probably have been worth it. Also it'll hopefully be a good crowd of girls so helpful from the socialisisng point of view!

Elun :D

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Hi

 

Have a look here for other threads on this topic

 

http://www.asd-forum.org.uk/forum/index.ph...ebster+stratton

 

I've done the course, and think its an excellent general parenting course, but it has nothing specific in it for children with AS. Some of the techniques - especially time out - are, i think, harmful to children with AS.

 

If you need help in managing a child with AS, then Webster Stratton misses the point by being too general, and focusing on the parent (or at best, the family) as being at fault.

 

Elanor

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Hi, I am currently on the 6th week of this course and so far have found it of no benefit to my Aspergers son - the whole reason for trying the course!

 

However, if you have any siblings who are supposedly NT and who's behaviour is causing you concern I would recommend this course. My AS son is 10 and my NT son is 5. I am using the techniques of the W.S. course on the 5 year old with some amazing results! ie. Getting him to dress himself for school, sit at the mealtable without getting up and down the whole time and being able to wipe his own bottom! This only took about 3-4 weeks to achieve and is already making life easier.

 

This is, of course, only my own opinon and others may have found it useful, but so far I would say not for AS kids - however I will keep you updated because I have a few more week to go on the course yet.

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Only just seen this - thanks for reply. I do have another boy who's 7. He's supposedly nt but I honestly do wonder. I think he has traits of AS but not enough for diagnosis in my opinion. My 5 yr old is severely autistic but I think I may try it as I'm also a teacher so could be useful for work. Would love to hear how it goes

Elun xx

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