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hi my name is bren did introduce myself on meet and greet my son is still out of school the real problem here now is he was excluded because of a knife attack on a teacher well now at home the attacks are coming fast and frequent he is on medication....the advice i keep gettin from cahms is ring the police or socail services which we did at xmas they helped admit him to hospitol who then put him on medication well last friday he attacked me again i rang the hospitol who said we need to ring socail services and get you some respite (we have had nothing in the past or any help since bein excluded) anyway ss said sorry we cant help you need to be refered but we will ring you monday and make sure everything is ok (they didnt ring) anyway the thing they did say was we cant help but if it happens again and he attacks you with a knife and you fail to phone the police we will do you for failure to protect his twin i couldnt believe it ...today he attacked me again andtook both me and hubby to restrain him i gave in and rang the police ....they came and didnt arrest him or take him i expalined about ss and they said it is all wrong that they cant arrest a child for havin a meltdown it wouldnt be fair on him...the prob i have is he now seems to enjoy the fact that i have no protection from the police i warned the hossi this would happen what do i do we are back at cahms monday..the police are goin to get in touch with ss .....all he as heard the past few weeks is phone the police on him this is why i think the attacks and bbehaviours have got worse i told them he is nt a criminal

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hello welcome to the forum

i dont have much advice as my son is alot younger.....saying he is younger -sorry -i dont actually know your sons age ?

hopefully someone will have some .......

did the medication not help at all then?

terrible that you have been left hanging on for others to contact you when you so need the help. >:D<<'> >:D<

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hello welcome to the forum

i dont have much advice as my son is alot younger.....saying he is younger -sorry -i dont actually know your sons age ?

hopefully someone will have some .......

did the medication not help at all then?

terrible that you have been left hanging on for others to contact you when you so need the help. >:D<<'> >:D<

my son is 14 the medication as helped a bit before he was very aggressive and hearing voices and we couldnt calm him now it doesnt seem to take as long and he doesnt hear voices anymore

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hi , sorry to hear things are tough at the moment,

my son is 13 and reading your post was like reading about him! hearing voices and knife attacks, he was excluded from school when he was 10 for taking a knife to school to as he said -protect himself from the teacher- we now keep anything sharp locked away and only use knives when he is at school, as he doesnt attend school often we have some very strange meals as then it has to be food you can prepare with a butter knife.

it is very hard to get ss to help and i'm sorry i cant say anything that is helpful ,just wanted to let you know you're not alone.

my son takes medication that helps a bit and we have an emergency med to give aswell when things get really bad, thats if you can get him to take it!! hope someone helps you soon.

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Sorry to sound a bit obvious, but have you locked away all the knives, etc?

 

I know this isn't a solution to the problem, but until one is found I think you need to do this to protect everyone in the family.

 

Good luck,

 

Bid :)

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my son is 14 the medication as helped a bit before he was very aggressive and hearing voices and we couldnt calm him now it doesnt seem to take as long and he doesnt hear voices anymore

 

Hi >:D<<'>

I am sorry to hear how pathetic the system is over there when you have a crisis like this. Firstly, get rid of the knives or lock them away. With regards to medication a child should be seen regularly by the prescribing doctor to ensure there are no side affects or erratic behaviours - especially Psychotic behaviour. In this case I would go to the hospital or GP and demand an urgent review by a Paediatrician, cut through the red tape queue jump make a scene........ !! Do not back down - be a pitball terrier.... if this is what you have to do to be heard - do it. Keep a diary of food and behaviours. Avoid caffeine drinks coca cola, chocolate, red and green food colourings and Preservative 282 and 211. Keep his routine regular and simple. Routine, routine, routine prevents major meltdowns. If he is in meltdown mode give him space and a safe place - remember 'no reaction, reaction during these times its best you walk away - no eye contact - he needs this in order to calm down..

 

Personally in my experience the Paediatiian is the best because this doctor is going to become like a family member- ours is. When meds are changed he is a phone call away so I can describe the behaviours to the Paediatrician and he may adjust the doe over the phone or ask you to come back asap. He relies on your diary of behaviours - letters from teachers and his own observations to monitor what is setting your child off. A referral to a Behavioural Optometrist is important and Occupational Therapist and a Speech Therapist. The Paediatrician will refer you to all of these as well as and Education Psychologist for Assessments. This sounds a lot but one step at a time you will see all the Paediatrician may find that your child can be meds free if it is a food allergy.

 

If still aggressive and harming self or others he will possibly change the meds or alter the dose. Just because medication works for one child doesn't mean it will be right for another. Listen to the Paediatician ring him if behaviours have gone troppo it may mean your child needs more or less medications or a change to another type altogether - don't delay, sounds like this is why you need an urgent review. He may also recommend two medications. The Paediatrician will get you priority referrals to Specialists for food allergies this book Sue Dengate 'Different Kids' will help you asap on things to avoid.

 

Is his bedroom calming and soothing - get rid of things that wind him up - especially clutter. Soft blue furnishings are good- avoid red its proven to over stimulate kids like this, my sons preschool proved this when they had a colour theme day each day for a week. When they got to the colour red - clothes decorations etc all red, all the kids were wired to the moon. :lol:

 

Things will settle once your child needs are being resolved. Be gentle with yourself, you are doing great. Your child is screaming for help but he can't tell you what's wrong soon he will be back- with reassurance that you love him and are going to find out how best to help. Don't yell its not his fault...... he needs a good understanding Paediatrician. My son always feels like he can walk on water after each visit with ours.

 

This is a life long process the Paediatrician will also visit the school and reommend all the necessary paperwork and procedures for one- one support at school - so the school get the necessary funding etc.

 

Goodluck >:D<<'> >:D<<'> >:D<<'> >:D<<'>

 

Love

Fran

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Hi Bren

 

Have you tried having the medication changed? Sorry if this is not much help but try this link which is about other parents who are attacked by their children and what is being done to help them.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/womanshour/02/2007_37_wed.shtml

 

You can listen to the complete programme again.

 

 

Kinda

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Hi, I know how you feel as police had to be involved with my ds aged 12 three times between xmas and new year, I just could not control the violence, ss told me that if it carried on they could get a place of safety order as he was a danger to himself and the younger ones, I was terrified, it seems to have calmed for now but he is on lots of meds, I am still walking on eggshells most of time tho, I know none of this will help much BUT I do know just how you feel. Enid

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Hi I am near you so if you ever need to chat please do pm me, and I know there is some really good ASD support services in Doncaster so I will help you further with this too.

 

We are in exact the same situation with J that social services have told me to contact the police when he is in a meltdown and we have already been intouch with the police who totally are in agreement with me that all this will do will cause further emotional issues and will just take him down a road that isnt designed for peoples who have a special need.

 

I have wrote a strong letter of complaint and I recommend you do the same, my local paper wanted to publish it as its ludicrus to have a child so young arrested for something that is part of their disability, but I declined as I may be doing a more wider scope on the whole situation of children and meeting there needs from Local Authority but they said it was disgusting and Social services should have mental health services in action for children who are displaying this amount of aggression, not the ###### police who have already said they are not there for this situation.

 

So write letters of complaint and send them to every organisation going, and go all the way.

 

We are going throw the process now of a complaint with social services because when things like this happen there is no one available even duty teams as they are ingaged or a answer phone message.

 

Its disgusting and gets me very angry because the system has a wide gaping hole and letting down children left right and centre.

 

COMPLAIN.

 

PM me.

 

JsMum

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thanks everyone for your replys ...we are back at hospitol this morning we are there nearly everyweek with him i am going to ask that they can change his meds or give us something in an emergency...i do think if they hurried up finding him some education or hurried the residentail school up this would help the situation ...i just feel so useless at the min i am having to have another day off college today because i just cant cope with it all love bren

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