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hi no doubt this has been a thread before-having bad time trying to get my son to do it-well in fact even when he does its no good........

 

 

ive been told of by the dentist twice now.....as his teeth are bad and hes only 6-ive asked debtist to talk to him which he did but no joy....

 

and now today we had to go out of hours at hospital-for abcess-looks like hes got a golf ball in his mouth.....got antibiotics and told to ring dentist up.....sigh :unsure: ........

 

do you think i should print something out about asd and teeth brushing...for the dentist?

as i cant face being talked down to again.................my 5 year olds teeth are all ok-

 

my son attacks me at mere mention of brushing teeth-and i always had to force him ...but now very hard to get him in bathroom let alone brush teeth..................feel i am partly to blame as ive not pushed it for keeping the peace... :rolleyes:

 

rq xxx

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hi no doubt this has been a thread before-having bad time trying to get my son to do it-well in fact even when he does its no good........

 

 

ive been told of by the dentist twice now.....as his teeth are bad and hes only 6-ive asked debtist to talk to him which he did but no joy....

 

and now today we had to go out of hours at hospital-for abcess-looks like hes got a golf ball in his mouth.....got antibiotics and told to ring dentist up.....sigh :unsure: ........

 

do you think i should print something out about asd and teeth brushing...for the dentist?

as i cant face being talked down to again.................my 5 year olds teeth are all ok-

 

my son attacks me at mere mention of brushing teeth-and i always had to force him ...but now very hard to get him in bathroom let alone brush teeth..................feel i am partly to blame as ive not pushed it for keeping the peace... :rolleyes:

 

rq xxx

 

My son was like this when he was younger, I would try to clean his teeth and he would spit it at me, kick, scream. Gradually over the years it has got better and now he can explain things a bit better (he's 14) he tells me he hates the taste of toothpaste and he hates cleaning his teeth to this day and I have to keep asking him and i'm sure he pretends most of the time.

 

It is deffinately a sensory thing, he hates anything with a strong taste and I have to introduce things with a high flavour lots of times before he accepts it.

 

What is your son like with eating minty sweets or spicy food etc. Also have you tried a social story or schedule these really help.

 

Here are some websites that may help:

 

http://www.polyxo.com/socialstories/ss0005.html

 

http://www.frsd.k12.nj.us/autistic/Social%...ial_stories.htm

 

http://www.slatersoftware.com/document.html

 

http://www.adders.org/socialstories5.htm

 

http://www.do2learn.com/

 

Hope these help X

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My son was like this when he was younger, I would try to clean his teeth and he would spit it at me, kick, scream. Gradually over the years it has got better and now he can explain things a bit better (he's 14) he tells me he hates the taste of toothpaste and he hates cleaning his teeth to this day and I have to keep asking him and i'm sure he pretends most of the time.

I am like this with brushing teeth!! I wasnt violent as a child but was awkward in every other way possible!!! My mummy's solution was to make me regularly have those plaque dye tablets that makes all dirt on the teeth bright pink and make me keep going to brush them till it was gone.

 

For me it is not just toothpast but also the brushing action on the gums is too much.

 

I found a solution last year by buying strawberry baby toothpaste. you can get it in most highstreet pharmacy chains and i think mine came from B****. Its not got a strong flavour at all like the mint stuff. Yes it does not offer so much protection as normal tooth paste but it is better that than no brushing at all. I am lucky i have strong teeth so despite many years of irregular brushing (often several months between brushing teeth) i have no fillings. Even now i struggle to brush teeth as often as i should.

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Hi Rainbow Queen

Im a dental nurse with DD who is currently being assessed for ASD and I know exactly how you feel. Im sure you can imagine how embarressing it has been for me to take DD when she has had abcesses and cavities. Nightmare!!!

DD is getting there slowly though and you can buy different flavoured toothpaste. I also used disclosing tablets to show DD where plaque was and tried to make it fun. I managed it in short spurts and gradually built up the time. She still doesnt really like it but she is much better with the texture and taste of it now.

What makes it worse is when we go to the dentist she will let them do whatever needs to be done and is soooo good. Ive been lucky, but I do know that a lot of dentists blame the parents but that's because they really dont understand about ASD. Ive taught all the dentists where I used to work about ASD and they are much more understanding now.

Maybe you could explain that your son cant tolerate toothbrush, taste etc and maybe show them a food list of the things your son eats and can tolerate. It may help them understand a little better.

Hope this helps and if you need any extra help on this then you are more than welcome to post me again

Helen

 

ps .. good luck

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Thank you thank you thank you all for posting this.

 

My grandson has two bad teeth at the front, two worn down ones and dental abscesses above his front two decayed teeth. We feel so guilty about his teeth and many professionals must think we have spoon fed him sugar and left them to rot or something. We are intelligent people. We know he needs to brush his teeth. We have tried and got him to sort of accept self brushing with a novelty flashing toothbrush. Sometimes he will let us go over them, but only for about one or two brush strokes. We have had nightmares over the taste of toothpastes, even two tubes of the same brand not tasting right. He wont use mouthwash due to the taste either.

 

He is being seen at the dental hospital now. Our dentist referred him about extraction of the front two, but they have decided all his teeth need "restoring" before he has the anaesthesia for his front 2. So we have really fun fun sessions (which are incredibly stressful) and involve a young newly trained dentist at the dental hospital trying to get him to co-operate. Fluoride treatment? What did he do? Wipe it off with his sleeve! I wish they would just whip out the front two and have done with it. I see people looking at our little boy and making judgements because he has two decayed teeth at the front. Then they patronise you as if you know nothing about dental hygiene.

 

I am just so glad we are not the only ones going through this. I wish I could find a dentist who specialised in children with special needs and I would gladly pay privately because its just a huge battle.

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I have the same problems - J is seven, but I still get baby toothpaste for him. He has suddenly shown an interest in brushing his teeth as they are doing healthy eating and healthy teeth at school at the moment. But the enthusiasm will be short lived. I find that it is easier for J if he lays down with his head on my lap and I clean each tooth individually (with minimal paste). I also use a flosser on a stick to do the edges of his teeth - I think taking him away from the bathroom and making a dentist- patient game out of it helps.

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My 14 year old son is the same hates teeth brushing

 

 

A few months ago on a tip of from my sister who used to be a dental surgery assistant i had him refered to the community dentist........its great there used to dealing with special needs adults and kids and have loads of time and patience..............they also agreed to let him go there and have his teeth thoroughly cleaned by them once a month ................it doesnt cost me anything...........its a different world it real is and he enjoys going.............so even though hes hit and miss at home i know that once a month there spotless.........

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Thank you thank you thank you all for posting this.

 

My grandson has two bad teeth at the front, two worn down ones and dental abscesses above his front two decayed teeth. We feel so guilty about his teeth and many professionals must think we have spoon fed him sugar and left them to rot or something. We are intelligent people. We know he needs to brush his teeth. We have tried and got him to sort of accept self brushing with a novelty flashing toothbrush. Sometimes he will let us go over them, but only for about one or two brush strokes. We have had nightmares over the taste of toothpastes, even two tubes of the same brand not tasting right. He wont use mouthwash due to the taste either.

 

He is being seen at the dental hospital now. Our dentist referred him about extraction of the front two, but they have decided all his teeth need "restoring" before he has the anaesthesia for his front 2. So we have really fun fun sessions (which are incredibly stressful) and involve a young newly trained dentist at the dental hospital trying to get him to co-operate. Fluoride treatment? What did he do? Wipe it off with his sleeve! I wish they would just whip out the front two and have done with it. I see people looking at our little boy and making judgements because he has two decayed teeth at the front. Then they patronise you as if you know nothing about dental hygiene.

 

I am just so glad we are not the only ones going through this. I wish I could find a dentist who specialised in children with special needs and I would gladly pay privately because its just a huge battle.

 

Hi Peaches.I thought I would mention that in my area the PCT has a dental service for children and adults with SEN,mental health needs that make it difficult to access a dentist and high risk medical conditions [hepatitis C,HIV].The dentists are specificaly trained to support more challenging dental patients and are aware of the difficulties.It would be worth contacting your PCT to ask what is available in your area.The service is usually funded by the PCT and so is free to users.Karen.

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Hi my son see,s the community dentist if he ever needs any treatment they,ve been really fab.My son had bad teeth :sick: when he was younger, 4 taken out and a glaze put over some to protect them.His teeth are alot better now but he hates the dentist and has a very sensitive mouth.

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Hey Rainbow Queen,

had a thought whilst brushing my teeth this morning- have you tried using one of those rubber thingys that fit over your finger? Only thing being, big chance of being bitten!!! :tearful:

Here's a link to a couple of sites that sell em, as I dont know how to put a picture in a post!!

 

http://www.nctsales.co.uk/prodshow.asp?id=...6&parent=70

 

http://www.toysrus.co.uk/Product.aspx/BruH...ingTooth/099252

 

Theres also one that comes in a brush form, it comes as part of a set...

 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Summer-Infant-Piec...pd_sbs_by_img_3

 

Or a similar idea- ignore the fwuffy bunny facecloth, if you wish-its a bit twee!!!

 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mam-First-Teething...pd_sbs_by_img_4

 

I dont know if your child is allowed chewing gum, but bear in mind that sugar free versions containing xylitol helps to prevent decay, control candida infections in the mouth and can also help prevent middle ear infections!! Have a gander here....

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xylitol

 

I dont know if thats of any help, Im assuming youve been down the super soft brush avenue, I just wonder if its the bristles that bother him? If so, the silicone option might help-not as good as a regular brush, I dont suppose, but it might be worth a shot?? And he could have a good chew if its the motion that gets to him? I think too, that you can get chocolate flavour toothpaste as well as fruity stuff- just cant recall where Ive seen it!!!

Aha, found some!

http://www.tannerstastypaste.com/home.asp

 

 

Esther x

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