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my son started secondary school in sept.

his statement is for 10hrs support but so far he is only receiving 8hrs.

when i asked the school again this week when he would get his 10hrs i was told that due to staff shortage they didn't know. but i was then told that his TA and senco meet every day to discuss him so that counts within the 10 hrs.

 

how much of his 10 hrs, if any, should be used for time like this?

 

personally, as he only has 10hrs i want it all to go on supporting him in class

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So they are saying that the SENCO and LSA meet for an average of 24 minutes each day to discuss and plan for 2 hours of support - seems highly unlikely and unecessary.

 

It may be that the LSA needs to do some planning and photocopying, but 2 hours seems a lot of time for that.

 

You could call your LA and ask for their opinion on this response.

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So they are saying that the SENCO and LSA meet for an average of 24 minutes each day to discuss and plan for 2 hours of support - seems highly unlikely and unecessary.

 

I agree.

 

If your son needs 10 hours of direct support that's what he should be getting. What does the statement say exactly?

 

If admin and liason time is needed this should be written into the statement separately.

 

K x

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ok, actual wording........

 

'.....the LA will provide funding equivalent to 10hrs per week of TA time which the school can use flexibly in conjunction with other devolved and school based resources to meet his needs. these resources can be delivered in a variety of ways such as small group, individualised support etc, so that teh actual time when support is available in his class may well be greater than the level indicated above.'

 

at the moment he gets TA time for 8 hrs a week. she is there to support him but he has told me of at least one occasion when she took out another child who was struggling. he said he was fine but thats not really the point.

 

i will ring the LA tomorrow.

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In my opinion from the wording it sounds as if it is 10 hours direct support per week. So yes i think they are fobbing you off. In primary my sons LSA,s were always being told off for giving him more hours not less. I think you need to get this cleared up maybe bring his review forward.

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my son started secondary school in sept.

his statement is for 10hrs support but so far he is only receiving 8hrs.

when i asked the school again this week when he would get his 10hrs i was told that due to staff shortage they didn't know. but i was then told that his TA and senco meet every day to discuss him so that counts within the 10 hrs.

 

how much of his 10 hrs, if any, should be used for time like this?

 

personally, as he only has 10hrs i want it all to go on supporting him in class

 

Not two hours . :wallbash::wallbash::wallbash::rolleyes: Karen.

 

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Hi, he should be getting 10hrs direct support!

I posted on here last week and got good advice regarding my sons lsa being off and no replacement put in place,due to advice from people here I spoke to ACE who were very helpful and called the Lea also phoned the specialist advisory teaching service who ALL said the same thing..... it is a legal and binding document!

So your childs statement hours have to be aheared to. Get all your facts then meet with school. I met with the head as that is where the buck stops.Sometimes I think schools get away with what they can due to resorses, lack of staff etc and I think in the case of my school perhaps lack of knowledge of sen law.I do understand it must be hard for schools but that is not your problem,it is not an ideal world,and you are fighting for your childs education.

The education officer who wrote the statement will be interested in what is going on at school as there name is attached to the statement.

Does the statement include any Specialist advisory teacher imput? (my son has 12hrs per year on his) as they are specialised in autism,you could ask them what they think and perhaps they could speak to school to back you?

But I think 10hrs means just that...10hrs and school should have part three of the statement to also put in place from their own resorses?????

If it was 8 hrs and 2 for plannining and preparation this would or should be clearly stated in the statement..

They can not remove(well they can but it a breech of a legal document) your sons lsa to support another child! they need to use support from a non statmented child from schools resorses in these cases.( I do know this is NOT good for the other child either!!!! ahhhhh :wallbash: )

Good luck

The more info you have the better

My meeting went well and I got a good result as I got all the facts so I could not be fobbed off.

some of the best advice I got on here was "when the school realise you wont keep you mouth shut they will get things done"

 

My school seemed to truly beleive a statmented child could go unsupported for three days until learning support sent cover,this is what has been happening for I dont know how long! Now my son will be supported by a named ta that knows him really well,until lsa bck or replacement provided.

 

Maybe your childs school have always worked this way with statemented children and dont realise that they are in the wrong? or maybe other parents have never questioned them over this "planning"time????

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Hi all

 

As I have said before, if they, the school are sort of staff due to sickness etc, then they should bring in bank staff to cover.

I don't know if it is the same in other areas but here the school is allocated an amount of money dependant on what hours a statement requires and it is up to the school how they spend that money to provide the support stated.

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Hi all

 

As I have said before, if they, the school are sort of staff due to sickness etc, then they should bring in bank staff to cover.

I don't know if it is the same in other areas but here the school is allocated an amount of money dependant on what hours a statement requires and it is up to the school how they spend that money to provide the support stated.

 

Hi.It is like that in lots of areas now.However even if the LEA attempt to say they don't ....they still have a duty to ensure that what is documented on the Statement if a child is fortunate to have one is provided. :rolleyes::rolleyes::wallbash: Karen.

 

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I think they are fobbing you off - I don't believe that they use almost � an hour per day to plan 1� hours of direct support

 

It sounds like the planning for the whole of the TAs time is being taken from your SEN allowance

Edited by puffin

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--LEA--....they still have a duty to ensure that what is documented on the Statement --- is provided.

 

 

Sorry if it sounded like it but I was not saying that the LEA did not have a duty to ensure a statement is kept to.

 

What I was saying is that the school has a duty to provide cover for sickness etc and they cannot pass the buck to the LEA as some seem to do.The LEA's has a duty to make sure that a statement are kept to by the school.

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