fiorelli Report post Posted June 22, 2010 Does anyone know how you go about gaining/asking for tri-partite funding for a residential special school? Thanks x Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
call me jaded Report post Posted June 22, 2010 You really need a social work assessment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kazzen161 Report post Posted June 22, 2010 You would need to already be having input (and probably a lot of input) from all agencies (social services, education and nhs). I have never heard of the NHS funding a placement for asd and it is almost impossible to get SS to fund in our county (apart from for Looked after children where they are already spending a lot of money on caring for them). SS refused to take any part in education discussions when we were considering residential, and I know they just didn't turn up to a Tribunal meeting when they were told to do an assessment and attend. I don't know if things are any easier now SS and education are both under "children's services". Everyone I know, concentrated on the education issues and proved that a certain school was the only one that could meet all their child's needs - and that school just happened to be residential. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fiorelli Report post Posted June 22, 2010 You would need to already be having input (and probably a lot of input) from all agencies (social services, education and nhs). I have never heard of the NHS funding a placement for asd and it is almost impossible to get SS to fund in our county (apart from for Looked after children where they are already spending a lot of money on caring for them). SS refused to take any part in education discussions when we were considering residential, and I know they just didn't turn up to a Tribunal meeting when they were told to do an assessment and attend. I don't know if things are any easier now SS and education are both under "children's services". Everyone I know, concentrated on the education issues and proved that a certain school was the only one that could meet all their child's needs - and that school just happened to be residential. Thank you both for replying. It was more or less the answer I was expecting. (although hoping not to get iykwim...) LEA have replied to tribunal saying that ASD and ADHD are not educational needs, and as such they will not name them on the statement. And that because each person with these presents differently, they oppose naming them on the statement. They are also opposing the resi school (big surprise - not!) saying that it is a social need rather than an educational one. Bah! I have a huge fight on my hands, esp. as I have heard that my local LEA are re-assessing everyone in resi. school to see if they still need the placement... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kazzen161 Report post Posted June 22, 2010 >>LEA have replied to tribunal saying that ASD and ADHD are not educational needs, and as such they will not name them on the statement. And that because each person with these presents differently, they oppose naming them on the statement.>> That seems strange - I know lots of children who have one or other named on their statements (in that county). In themselves they are not educational needs, but usually the educational needs arise from the ADHD/ASD. I can't see the Tribunal agreeing with them as long as all the consequent needs are listed too. Ask IPSEA what they think. I know that most specialist schools will not take a child unless AS/ASD is their primary need, so maybe the LA are trying to stop them offering you a place? Isn't he at an EBD school? I can't see that EBD is an educational need anymore than ASD or ADHD. Have the LA admitted yet that his current school cannot meet his needs? You need to prove that X school is the only school that can meet his needs (academic, emotional, behavioural, life and independence). If that school happens to be residential then that is their hard luck - lol! Which school were you wanting to name? Is attending it as a day pupil possible? (often once they are in the school will be able to argue for them to be residential)., Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fiorelli Report post Posted June 23, 2010 >>LEA have replied to tribunal saying that ASD and ADHD are not educational needs, and as such they will not name them on the statement. And that because each person with these presents differently, they oppose naming them on the statement.>> That seems strange - I know lots of children who have one or other named on their statements (in that county). In themselves they are not educational needs, but usually the educational needs arise from the ADHD/ASD. I can't see the Tribunal agreeing with them as long as all the consequent needs are listed too. Ask IPSEA what they think. I know that most specialist schools will not take a child unless AS/ASD is their primary need, so maybe the LA are trying to stop them offering you a place? Isn't he at an EBD school? I can't see that EBD is an educational need anymore than ASD or ADHD. Have the LA admitted yet that his current school cannot meet his needs? You need to prove that X school is the only school that can meet his needs (academic, emotional, behavioural, life and independence). If that school happens to be residential then that is their hard luck - lol! Which school were you wanting to name? Is attending it as a day pupil possible? (often once they are in the school will be able to argue for them to be residential)., Thank you for replying Kazzen, I hope you don't mind, but there are a lot of personal questions in there, I'll pm you the answers? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kazzen161 Report post Posted June 23, 2010 Yes, that's fine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
