Hayley S Report post Posted June 8, 2011 Hi all My daughter has asd and associated learning disabilities. We are due to go to her assessment of needs appointment as she is going in to reception year in September and we need a placement at special school but as it stands at the moment unless we are successful she will go in to mainstream school with out support and I am terrified for her safety and that of the other students and teachers:( Any tips for the appointment? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hayley S Report post Posted June 9, 2011 Our appointment is on the 2206 Any advice please??!! I am worried for my daughters safety and others if she goes in to school with no support in place Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
allafluster Report post Posted June 9, 2011 Our appointment is on the 2206 Any advice please??!! I am worried for my daughters safety and others if she goes in to school with no support in place Not very experienced, your daughter will get help in mainstream without a statement as the schools have funding for this but it is generally for 10 hours or 15 hours per week. Some will cover the gap for extra hours until the statement and I have friends children who only do half days until the statement and funding is in place. My son will start SN school in september, one of his main areas of concern was his safety. I have heard of children being placed in SN school while awaiting statement, or on trial but do not know of any personnally. You will probalby need to convey your concerns strongly esp to ed pscy as the evidence is what creates your statement and you will need them to agree the only suitable placement for your child is special school as you do not have or may not have a statement by september. Not much help I know but wanted to at least reply good luck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lynden Report post Posted June 9, 2011 Allafluster is right, if the education psychologist feels that a SN school is the best place for your child to be, you may be offered an assessment place whilst you are going through the Statementing process. My son had an assessment place at a SN school which he was then placed at, but there was no ambiguity over where he should be placed as he had severe learning difficulties at that point. The assessment place doesn't guarantee a place in that SN school however, that depends on the outcome of both the placement and the statement. Have you been in contact with your local Parent Partnership? They can help you through the whole process. Take care Lynne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baddad Report post Posted June 9, 2011 (edited) Hi Hayley - Been a long time since I had to do it, but as far as I know if you want your child statemented either the school has to put in a request or you do. the first part of that process is gathering the information and evidence identifying what her needs are and more importantly - if aiming for a special school placement - why those needs cannot be met in a mainstream school. Only you and the professionals you consult can identify those needs and provide that information etc. I'm a little confused about your post - the assertion that a 4/5 year old child should present a significant risk to other children and even the adults in the school? Certainly a child of this age can have behavioural problems, but what confuses me is the level of violence suggested by your post, your seeming acceptance of it (both as something beyond parental/adult control and as a 'symptom' of ASD), and the idea that a special school will somehow be able manage & control the 'threat' she presents to herself, other children and adults where you seemingly haven't been able to. Can I ask what these behaviours are, what strategies you use to manage and control them, and why if you've been unsuccesful in the latter why you think school will be able to overcome those problems on your behalf? These, BTW, would all be pertinent to identifying your daughter's needs to facilitate getting a statement, so they are well worth looking at in any event for your meeting on the 22nd. Whatever school your daughter does end up attending, behaviours that endanger her, other children and the teaching staff will not be something they can 'cope' with. While a special school may be in a better position to 'protect' her and others and more knowledgable etc it is a 'swings and roundabouts' equation, and choosing a specialist placement purely on the basis that they can handle violent behaviour may well be the wrong choice in the long term for all sorts of reasons. And wherever she goes, they will not be able to achieve anything in terms of addressing your daughters behaviour without the continuity of a home environment that practices, supports and reinforces the behavioural management strategies they put in place at school, which from the sounds of it wouldn't currently be the case. Given the timescales involved I would, in your position, start working flat out to address in the home the behavioural issues you think will endanger her and others in school, so that when she does start attending she and the school have the best chance they can have of integrating her successfully. The first stage of that is having some sort of clarity about behavioural expectations (for you and her), with clear rules, boundaries and guidelines that are rigidly enforced with meaningful sanctions for negative behaviours and meaningful rewards for positive behaviours. The answer really isn't to put her in a school that can cope with her, but to equip her as far as possible to cope with school, and that applies for all children, whether they have an asd or not. L&P BD Edited June 9, 2011 by baddad Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BusyLizzie100 Report post Posted June 9, 2011 (edited) Hi all My daughter has asd and associated learning disabilities. We are due to go to her assessment of needs appointment as she is going in to reception year in September and we need a placement at special school but as it stands at the moment unless we are successful she will go in to mainstream school with out support and I am terrified for her safety and that of the other students and teachers:( Any tips for the appointment? Hello Hayley, It's difficult to answer your query in detail without a little more information, but will have a go! I'm not sure who your appointment is with - is it with a nursery teacher, or educational psychologist? Is your daughter undergoing an actual assessment or has she had it? Is your child currently at nursery school? If you can let us know, I or someone else here may be able to offer more specific advice. Generally, however, if you have concerns over your child's special educational needs, you can apply for a statutory assessment yourself. This is the first step towards getting a statement - if the Local Authority agrees to assess then it will seek advice from professionals involved with your daughter in order to identify what her needs are and what provision may be needed to support her. After the assessment period this could then result in a statement of special educational needs that will indicate what type of school is appropriate. If you visit www.ipsea.org.uk you can download a model letter, which you can adapt to include information about your daughter, which you will then need to send to your Local Authority. It will assist your application if you have supporting documents eg reports from paediatrician/teacher etc. You may actually find it most useful to ring the Ipsea helpline, which is on the website, and an adviser can give you specific advice for your child. It can take a while to get through, but keep trying. Come back to us if you need more. Lizzie Edited June 9, 2011 by BusyLizzie100 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
