Where can I get supported employment?

[Gutcruncher]

I can't manage employment on my own, I need supported employment.

 

Where can i get it from?

 

Don't say NAS, they won't help me at all because I don't get direct payments, self directed support etc, always refused them. Don't say Job centre +, that's all workfare where you won't be supported.

 

I am not thick BTW, I have a degree, so don't say "do gardening" etc.

[Special_talent123]

usually social services either refer to the team that is voluntary before u can go down the paid route to make sure your know what u want to do and give u bit of experience of different things and then may get a job in paid work a little bit but not to much, or the supported employment team but it will involve paid work and over 16 hours which could loose benefits. this is what happened to me but i refused the voluntary employment as i already do that and i did get referred to supported employment first but they could see im not ready. so i just do my own volunteering until im 25

[RainbowsButterflies]

Supported in what way? What do you need help with in particular?

[Gutcruncher]

Supported in what way? What do you need help with in particular?

coping with the workplace at all, in any way, really.

 

I can't get jobs as I can't handle interviews, travelling etc. I could work if I get support though, but without support I wouldn't last a day in work. I cannot even get past the first stage though. I have never had a job.

 

i need help managing the basic employment situation, being in/at a workplace, etc. Even getting there and back. Recognition that I might get ill and can't do work at certain unexpected times. Help having to talk to people and related things.

 

usually social services either refer to the team that is voluntary before u can go down the paid route to make sure your know what u want to do and give u bit of experience of different things and then may get a job in paid work a little bit but not to much, or the supported employment team but it will involve paid work and over 16 hours which could loose benefits. this is what happened to me but i refused the voluntary employment as i already do that and i did get referred to supported employment first but they could see im not ready. so i just do my own volunteering until im 25

social services haven't been much help. They say, find your own job (on the open market) apply and go to interviews, if you are successful THEN we'll help you. so they expect me to find a job through standard competition when I have no references, no work experience or no work history, and cannot travel to interviews, or manage interviews. that is NOT possible (getting a job through competing) otherwise it would have happened before in the past. they do not realise I have problems getting employment because I cannot compete with people who do not have AS, and employers will always prefer people who are normal.

 

please no one say 'get relatives friends etc to find you a job', look, if I could do that (had the contacts to do so) I would have done it years ago. I have no friends really either.

Edited November 29, 2011 by Gutcruncher

[Special_talent123]

i stated my opinion

Edited November 29, 2011 by Special_talent123

[Tanya52]

Well, I've got three degrees: 2 bachelors & foundation in accountancy + 2 NVQs (level 2). And I used to work with NHS doing domestic job for 3 years. Loved it BTW.

[justine1]

Well, I've got three degrees: 2 bachelors & foundation in accountancy + 2 NVQs (level 2). And I used to work with NHS doing domestic job for 3 years. Loved it BTW. :Dworking

Good for you Tanya <'>

 

I think having any job is better than having no job at all.Its not about how clever you are,there are many people working for minimum wage who are very intelligent.My sister in law had to work as a cleaner for a year whil she waited for her pin for being a qualified physio. She did'nt qualify for any benefits and had no choice but to work.When you in that situation you cannot be fussy.

[oxgirl]

I am not thick BTW, I have a degree, so don't say "do gardening" etc.

 

The thing is, academic ability has got nothing to do with ability to function, has it. How did you manage to attain a degree, did you go to university and were you supported there or did you achieve it alone; living away from home, travelling there, studying, etc.?

 

If gardening would suit you or some other outdoor work, then it is irrelevant whether or not you have qualifications. You have to look for work that suits your overall abilities and if working in the same field as your degree would be too difficult for you, but, for instance, gardening, would suit you, so what? You don't have to be thick to do gardening either, btw, there are lots of skills a person would need to do a good job gardening or they just might like working with their hands, doesn't mean they're 'thick'.

 

~ Mel ~

[Gutcruncher]

The thing is, academic ability has got nothing to do with ability to function, has it. How did you manage to attain a degree, did you go to university and were you supported there or did you achieve it alone; living away from home, travelling there, studying, etc.?

 

If gardening would suit you or some other outdoor work, then it is irrelevant whether or not you have qualifications. You have to look for work that suits your overall abilities and if working in the same field as your degree would be too difficult for you, but, for instance, gardening, would suit you, so what? You don't have to be thick to do gardening either, btw, there are lots of skills a person would need to do a good job gardening or they just might like working with their hands, doesn't mean they're 'thick'.

 

~ Mel ~

Shut up OK! If gardening is so good, go do that yourself. drop everything now and do that, if not, you're a hypocrite.

 

I mentioned gardening as at every stage I've been told thats what I should do because that's what handicapped people do, I'm NOT going to again let myself be lumped together with Downs Syndrome people etc like I have been in the past, I saved myself from going to a special school, I argued the case to be let to do A-levels at college not NVQs, I try at every point not to be written off.

 

Gradening is what I'm always told to do when I mention my disability, BUT I KNOW THAT I'M *NOT* LIKE PEOPLE WITH DOWN'S SYNDROME!

 

I REALISE I won't get into a graduate job, I would be back of the queue and can't afford to work as an unpaid intern for a year etc, but just because I can't realistically get a graduate job doesn't mean that I have to be part of the special needs crowd.

[Gutcruncher]

Good for you Tanya <'>

 

I think having any job is better than having no job at all.Its not about how clever you are,there are many people working for minimum wage who are very intelligent.My sister in law had to work as a cleaner for a year whil she waited for her pin for being a qualified physio. She did'nt qualify for any benefits and had no choice but to work.When you in that situation you cannot be fussy.

Don't lecture me like that I'd rather do a job than nothing like I am at the moment I'm not "fussy" I get turned down from everything /i've ever applied for

 

AS is a toxic label, employers don't want to know

[Tanya52]

There’s an agency for disable people in our town. I’ve got a lot of help and support from my personal advisor. They do tailored trainings in job interview skills and even promised to come with me to my interview if I’d requested. They do mentorship during a job trial and support after.

 

I’ve met a lady who believes that AS is her wonderful/unique asset (she is a free-lancer). Have you ever considered becoming self-employed?

[justine1]

I am sorry but you have asked once again for peoples comments and you once again want to dismiss everything people are saying. You seem to be looking for a quick fix option or reply but that won't happen.

 

You seem very rude and arogant this may be the reason why you are not working nothing else!

 

There are at least four members (sorry if I forgot anyone)who have AS and are working,some are also parents on top of that.It is not easy but they get on with it. If you were able to get a degree why ca't you use the same determination to get a job? I am sorry but I have two brothers with disabilities,one more serious than the other,he has physical and communication difficulties.Before his strokes he was working for a very well known company getting £15p/h.He was unable to work for 2 years after because of setbacks and re-habilitation.He has workd every year since then(8 years),from cleaning to most recently childcare. He is now working towards becoming a TA. Yes he has got help with writing CV's from both SALT and his wife but he would'nt have done any of that he if he was not so determined to work. Other than DLA he has claimed nothing in terms of benefits. He attends interviews himself and although struggles as he cannot always get out what he wants to say,he comes across polite and hard working and thats how he gets a job.

[Special_talent123]

excuse me gut but you have just broke the law and just discriminated against people with downs syndroe and there is a film that i made about attitudes towards disabled young people and there is you and your attitude breaking the law by discriminating by using downs syndrome and handicapped to your advantage.

 

You also are being very rude to us all, if u wont take our advice then hy bother posting because if u can't accept that then thats YOUR PROBLEM, NOT OURS.

[bid]

I'm afraid the problem would appear to be your attitude rather than AS!

 

Bid

Edited November 29, 2011 by bid

[oxgirl]

Shut up OK!

 

Er, no, I don't think so!

[dekra]

You say can't/won't look for work on the open market. I'm sorry but the days of positive discrimination are gone. If you want work from almost any source you will need to compete. Work on your strengths rather than your weaknesses and make a plan of what you think you CAN do and what you'd LIKE to do and go from there. No one is going to hand you a job AS or not unless you are suitable, capable and eager.

[dekra]

Also google a company called Remploy - they specialise in aiding people with all kinds of disabilities find jobs.

 

As for the gardening - it's not just for profoundly disabled people, stop being a snob - if you don't like gardening fair enough I wouldn't want to be a gardener either but that's just my personal lack of interest. But don't rule the job out because you feel you are "too good" for it.

[Tanya52]

Finding job is not nearly enough.

It's even harder to keep it. This means multitasking and hell of a lot of anxiety management:

 

1 learning your craft on a hoof

2 learning to communicate well (this is your huge SUPER priority)

3 learning self-motivation for doing your job well and to enjoy it (otherwise kiss it goodbye from day 1)

Trust me, I’m a cleaner!

[Tally]

Gutcruncher clearly does not want any of the advice that people here can offer so I'm going to close this now.