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      Depression, Mental Health and Crisis Support   06/04/2017

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Sorry if here isn't the right place to do this but the Introductions thread seems to be locked.

I'm Mark, a 45 yr old from Manchester and, over the last 5 years or so, have been diagnosed with Asperger's, ADHD, anxiety and depression,

In that time I've been prescribed a variety of different meds and have, sporadically, seen several therapists/counsellors but am no better off than I when it started and, if anything, things are getting progressively worse.

I don't know what to do or where to turn next because nothing so far - doctors, therapists, meds, etc - has made much of a difference to the point where the one person I care about has, rightly, had enough with me and my inability to provide any kind of support or even make discernible improvements or steps forward; meaning I'm in a worse situation now than I was 14 years ago when we first met.

So here I am, looking for a new perspective, to tap into your collective wisdom and, hopefully, find a way to stop the endless downward spiral I feel like I've been in for as long as I can remember.


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Welcome to the ASD forum


The introductions thread is one us moderators can add to but is locked so replies are made in individual threads like the one you had just made. Yes you have done the right thing.


When things started to get worse and no meds helped me, I decided to try changing things in my lifestyle to try and help myself. I took out all gluten, all dairy, most msg, most aspartame and after my EDS diagnosis all pineapple. This was taken out of food and non foodstuffs. I also avoid tartaric acid and sodium benzoate as they contribute to agitated behaviour. For ADHD taking out additives can help as well.


i did this when i was at university back in 2003 stuffing myself with sandwiches and feeling miserable. As this is a food addiction i had to stick with this for months before the cravings went. Some things improved in my life during this time, others had no effect. i even wrote a literature review on diet and autism at this time as a result of lifestyle changes. Some folk have to give up milk and soya. Within a few days of being off milk i was no longer craving the stuff, gluten took months. i also got a diagnosis of fibromyalgia during this time because i was able to feel pain and express pain effectively. This was the most important thing for me, able to express pain.


There are a few books that discuss autism and ADHD. The Jackson family have produced 2 such books;


User guide to the lifestyle ive just mentioned above;




Although aimed at adolescents it does mention medication which your GP may not have tried. There are other drugs apart from Ritalin;




Theres also "Aspergers and anxiety" http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asperger-Syndrome-Anxiety-Successful-Management/dp/184310895X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1395142482&sr=1-1&keywords=aspergers+and+anxiety


"Anxiety and Depression workbook for dummies"




Identifying 4 things in 5 years would cause me to become quite anxious and depressed. In fact i discovered a 'new piece to my puzzle' (as i prefer to call things rather than disabilities) every year for 7 years whilst i was at university. i have been at university since 2013, i had to take breaks due to my mental health.


The NAS guide to dealing with social isolation and some links to books at the end;




An autistic conference known as autscape run annually also we have quite a few ADHDers there :-) http://www.autscape.org/about/


This is a specialist support service in the Greater Manchester area http://www.potensial.co.uk/


NAS services in Manchester http://www.autism.org.uk/our-services/find-nas-services-in-your-area/local-services/manchester-services.aspx


NAS North Area Development team NRegionalTeam@nas.org.uk


NAS Manchester social group http://www.autism.org.uk/directory/resources/14555.aspx





A few other books which are more generalised;

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in childhood was discovered to have Clumsy Child Syndrome (Dyspraxia) ,I have AS which was officially accidently 'founded' in my early teens ,then more recently as last year end of October was diagnosed again by 'accident' as having combined type ADHD currently on 36mg dosage of Concerta always know mixture of different 'issues' there from start , even felt as a child in the playground wondering why everything so busy ,chaotic ,manic ,noisy ... now experience same sort of overwhelming, whirlwind feelings at work that surround me on high fast quick pace but medication does help organise my muddled ,confused thoughts in 'better manner' always felt hyper 'highs' moods and found hard sit still would get easily distracted by everything around me , constantly getting sent out of class or getting into 'trouble' as would get de motivated or frustrated this way I expressed it by being seen as class clown even class mates now class me as 'naughty one' by all adds up makes sense clearly. always felt like going round in endless circles ,catching myself up! was always difficult to manage or slow down the ever speedy rollercoaster I have no real control over!


I always seem to have point in direction of self -blame turn into vicious circle of mental health difficulties from pure frustrations and negative judgements and criticisms which were attached and stuck to me in my past especially school life , with bullying was hard to handle! , also feelings of anxieties never really fade into background which again is hard to balance out with battling depression since my early teens on/off with inner fight with depression this depressive issues ended up leading me on the path of being assessed for AS! my life so far been filled with lot of issues, difficulties and emotions which can be overwhelming and frustrating together!


I have a diagnosis of Mixed Anxiety & Depressive Disorder though don't know if been overrided now by ADHD & AS in place of even though depression and anxiety still everyday reality factor ,can be hard work out what caused what! , undiagnosed ,unrecognised ADHD & AS can cause endless frustrations which get tangled caught up in! it quite deep and don't think ever get to bottom of it all of which involved in whole background ,hidden picture as I've been described such 'complicated history' - by a doctor at local surgery so that must be saying something! lol ;)



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