Guest flutter Report post Posted September 10, 2005 why do kids get home work!!!! we are gonna be at it for ###### hours, cos we do one sum then have a rant, hit mum, throw a couple of things then start again i want hols back!!!! i can type this cos i have given her a wee break, rant over!!! C x Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lil_me Report post Posted September 10, 2005 We also have tempers about homework, its sat >>>>>>> on the desk, has been since Friday and if I even mention it we get another meltdown, as far as he's concerned school work is for school. I think what winds him up the most is the latter of homework is revision. Which as far as he's concerned is he's done that and doesn't want/need to do it again. I usually manage to get him to do his reading, but not much of the written work. Think they got used to it last year, the teacher said she didn't mind as he was ahead of the other children in most things anyway but just has a major problem with written work due to motor skills problems. Just going to have to wait and see what the new teacher says. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tracey Report post Posted September 10, 2005 Yes I agree school hols are much more stress free My daughter only does homework in a couple of subjects as I was having the same trouble as you it was so stressful the school was only too happy to cut down homework basically they are happy with whatever i dicide Tracey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lil_me Report post Posted September 10, 2005 Thats good of them Tracey, it was agreed last year that my son was sent homework and was to give it a go, but no real pressure. I just managed to get him to do his maths one, rove me a liar why doesn't he. But as soon as I mentioned English he vanished in a fit of screeeches Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jools Report post Posted September 10, 2005 i have just tried to sit my 3 down to do theirs. oldest has gone to her bedroom to do it, nat happily but she knows she has to. youngest loves all forms of homework so is in heaven.......lol as for G.......he has had complete meltdown at thought of it. shouted, screamed, cried, said he doesn't know what to do, won't let me help or talk to him so has gone to his hidey corner in bedroom to chill i'd forgotton how bad the homework thing was Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nellie Report post Posted September 10, 2005 Hi girls, You can find some interesting information on this homework topic, including information from Rita Jordan and Tony Attwood. Homework!!! http://www.asd-forum.org.uk/forum/index.ph...&st=0entry875 Hope it helps. Nellie xx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest flutter Report post Posted September 10, 2005 thank you nellie will start to keep a diary of homework times how it went what i had to do, i am a bit confused tho how my daughter got such good sats when she cant add or subtract we get feedback on tuesday as to whether she on spectrum, and once that is done i think that we will start on the education battle, ( have got a evaluation from psychologist) i not gonna make her do anymore today, so think of me tomorow, cos it is mental maths, and there a soo many Q's C xx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lil_me Report post Posted September 10, 2005 Thanks nellie, I've copied that article on a word document, I think the school could do with reading that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canopus Report post Posted September 10, 2005 I only ever enjoyed homework when I got to Y10. Before then much of the stuff just wasn't worth wasting my time doing. I either learnt nothing or it was a pointless exercise. My school was dismayed why I hadn't done any graphical communication homework for nearly a term in Y9. I replied that I was dropping the subject at the end of the year so it would be better to allocate my time to subjects I will be taking, or my maths GCSE due in a few months time. This cut no ice with the headmaster who stated that I should allocate equal time and effort to all subjects and get good grades in the internal exams for subjects which I was going to drop at the end of Y9. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zemanski Report post Posted September 10, 2005 I've just managed to arrange for Com to drop two of his subjects early - history and geography (he hates them and won't do them next year) - so he doesn't have to do them at all for Y9 and it cuts out a heap of the written homework. In one of the 'spare lessons' he now does 'study skills' and is given time to complete work and homework. The senco also lets him use the special needs room to do homework at lunchtime if he wants to - he prefers to do 'school work' at school so this helps a lot. anoter thing that works for Com as he is money obsessed is �1 of his pocket money is linked to homework done without a fuss - works for him, might be worth a try Zemanski Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
annie Report post Posted September 10, 2005 Canopus, What you wrote was really interesting because I had a similar conversation with my yr 11 son yesterday. Like everybody else, homework has always been a real battle. Now he's doing Education Other Than At School he is only doing 4 subjects - English, Maths, Science and Art. Anyway, he was saying that he's been asked to do more subjects, but he's said that he doesn't want to do them. He told me that he'd explained to them that he is enjoying his lessons more because they don't spend a lot of wasted time just talking rubbish (his words). They do what they have to. I can see what he means. When he was at school, he was doing lots of subjects that he wasn't interested in, but he HAD to do them. It made him really stressed because he couldn't see the point either. He felt that he was going to fail all of his exams. Now he's only going to be taking only 4 GCSE's he's happy and he's learning more, which in turn will help him do a lot better when it comes to exam time. The big bonus is that because there are only 4 or 5 kids in each lesson they hardly get homework because everything is covered in class. Annie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucas Report post Posted September 10, 2005 In school it was quickly understood that homework was detrimental to my learning but the school refused to budge, too arrogant in it's pride about it's homework policy. It prefered that I spend til the early hours of the morning doing homework only to do poorly in school, rather than be able to unwind after school and be able to do good work the next day. Homework is designed for Neurotypical children to make them focus on work more, as Autistic children who do well in schoolwork only have the problem of not being able to stop focusing I don't see the point in it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canopus Report post Posted September 10, 2005 I'm sure that most kids with AS take no interest in getting 13 A* at GCSE. They just want high grades in the few subjects they are interested in. I hope that future employers don't scrutinise my GCSEs because I don't have a foreign language, art, or technology subject. When I was at school, higher education was what mattered and the director of studies stated there isn't a real advantage in having loads of GCSEs, and that high grades in 5 subjects were better than poor grades in 10 subjects. I have read in more recent times that employers are increasingly interested in the range of GCSEs because they want more all-round people rather than single minded specialists. This could be a disadvantage to me and others who only have a few GCSEs or are missing a few subjects. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canopus Report post Posted September 10, 2005 (edited) Homework is designed for Neurotypical children to make them focus on work more, as Autistic children who do well in schoolwork only have the problem of not being able to stop focusing I don't see the point in it. I have always believed that the real reason for introducing compulsory education was to instil discipline, obediance, and compliance with rules no matter how poxy or stupid they may seem. The teachers saw me as lazy and undisciplined when I didn't do my homework and instead focused on something more interesting that would be of use after I finished school, such as computer programming or physics that were 5 years ahead of what I was learning in class. One reason for sending me to residential school was to make me do my homework. Edited September 10, 2005 by Canopus Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucas Report post Posted September 11, 2005 I was sent to a residential school for the opposite reason: it didn't opt for homework. It doesn't sound like your educational needs have actually been recognised. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zemanski Report post Posted September 11, 2005 Although I believe strongly that for AS kids homework is just putting too much pressure on them particularly as it is asking them to continue the stress of school in the home environment, I do try to get Com to do his. This is partly because it gives me time to work with him and I actually think he learns more with me on a homework task than he does in lessons - I think if Com was just being given homework by school then came home to do it instead of lessons it would be great for him. If the tasks set are flexible you can follow interests too. sort of like guided home-schooling!! now there's a concept to work on Zemanski Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canopus Report post Posted September 11, 2005 The homework system at my school was anything but flexible. A certain piece of homework had to be done on a certain day without fail. All homework had to be done in supervised sessions in complete silence. Kids were not allowed to discuss homework with each other or help each other. If you didn't complete your homework or had done it at breaktime then you would be punished. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TuX Report post Posted September 11, 2005 Homework is designed for Neurotypical children to make them focus on work more, as Autistic children who do well in schoolwork only have the problem of not being able to stop focusing I don't see the point in it. I have always believed that the real reason for introducing compulsory education was to instil discipline, obediance, and compliance with rules no matter how poxy or stupid they may seem. I agree,it is partly an attempt at discipline and control-to stop children from causing trouble when they have nothing to do,and also to reinforce what teachers teach. I cannot think of any real justification for the need of non weekend homework as the child will be going to school only several hours later/the next day anyway. I personally think academics should be for school,and school only. The amount of homework kids get at high school is terrible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canopus Report post Posted September 11, 2005 I was sent to a residential school for the opposite reason: it didn't opt for homework. It doesn't sound like your educational needs have actually been recognised. I can't prove this, but I suspect that the real reason for sending me to residential school was to improve me socially rather than provide me with an education that met my needs that state schools couldn't provide. In 1989 my statement clearly stated that I was withdrawn, preferred to spend time at home by myself rather than socialise with people of my age group, was obsessed with computers and spent a large amount of my free time in front of a computer, and was reluctant to write with a pen. Sending me to a residential school would have forced me to mix with other kids, stopped me using a computer, and would make me write with a pen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
annie Report post Posted September 11, 2005 I've just found this on the Sky News website. 'No homework reward for attendance' http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13435237,00.html Annie XX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mother in Need Report post Posted September 11, 2005 If those kids don't go to school they won't have homework in the first place, so what do they gain by going to school? I sometimes have the impression that schoolwork is only there to add extra teaching time to the children's day without the government having to pay for it... My NT eldest usually has no problems at all with his homework, and just gets on with it, I don't have to remind him or nothing. He likes to asks me questions regarding it, to challenge me not to get help , and we had a great laugh yesterday when he gave me a GCSE sum to do and I finished it before he did My youngest NT needs reminding to do his homework but has established a good routine first thing in the morning before school, once his brothers have gone of to college and I can sit down and spend a quiet time with him. However, this often gets messed up by my AS son, on those days that I can't get him to school in the mornings. But my AS middle son and homework just don't go together.........so muuh so that school has spotted our problems and have partially exempted him from doing homework. Another of his major problems was foreign languages and he is now exempt from them as well. so during those lessons he does the homework that he can, and he doesn't have to do the rest at all! So maybe for all of you who are struggling with this homework, as I was for so long, it might be worth asking for a full or partial exemption from homework. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elaine1 Report post Posted September 18, 2005 oh me too, my son always says i dont know to every question - conversation goes me: have u done these maths before T: I dont know me; do u recognise them t: I dont know etc etc then meltdown follows both from me and him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suze Report post Posted September 18, 2005 oh I hate this homework thing, my son just will not enter into it.We can sit down somewhere quiet and I,ll attempt to coax him into looking at the work, he just pushes it away ,puts his head on the table and bangs it , cries and gets so angry.Homework is definitely one of the most stress/ meltdown provoking scenarios we have. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest flutter Report post Posted September 18, 2005 well we have told her a bit about diagnosis, and i have told her that soon we will speak to the skool for support and now she does her homework! the room has to be be silent, and i have to be on hand in case i have to sit with her, ( she needs my fingers to count) so so far, C x Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
