smiley Report post Posted April 20, 2006 Hiya , Difficult to go into details, but, i have a child i care for (work) who is going through the process of assessment for various things..... I'm having some difficulty explaining the childs speech pattern. There are definitely signs of semantic and pragmatic difficulties as well as intonation.. The bit i'm having difficulty getting across is the way things tend to be pronounced..... I'll explain.. The child tends to speak very phonetically - ie; bLack, bRown, I wEnt for a waLK(and has also begun to stammer). Would this come under difficulties with phonology??? Ta xx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smiley Report post Posted April 20, 2006 Anyone??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bid Report post Posted April 20, 2006 Sorry, can't help myself... But you could try PMing slt101?? Bid Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nellie Report post Posted April 20, 2006 Sorry, I don't know either. You might find some clues here. http://www.afasic.org.uk/index.htm Nellie xx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smiley Report post Posted April 20, 2006 Hiya, I've already had a moochy through that site - and a couple of other SL ones..... annoying thing is - i'm certain i read about this kind of speech ages ago...... Just can't remember where - or what it was called...!! Grrrr. Thanks anyway <'> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kathryn Report post Posted April 20, 2006 Smileymab, is there a pattern you can detect: i.e. is the child focusing on particular consonant or vowel sounds? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smiley Report post Posted April 20, 2006 (edited) No, not really. That's the frustrating bit ..... It does tend to be the second letter in the word, but then not always ie; child will say d-rive, instead of drive, speaking rhythm is slow. But then as for my example 'walk', the child will say wa-l-k, pronouncing the L and K very clearly. I haven't been able to detect a pattern - just that the child will always say a certain one the same way - ie; drive will always be d-rive. I did think that it was possibly letters that require the front area of the mouth, lips, tougue (r, l,k ...... etc). But that seems to have gone out the window now...... the child is also literally correct in language - child will try to say the 'k' in knife. But, again this doesn't apply to all 'hidden' letters - Four yrs old. Edited April 20, 2006 by smileymab Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nellie Report post Posted April 20, 2006 I think Bid's suggestion of PMing slt101 is a good one. Nellie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smiley Report post Posted April 20, 2006 Will do xxx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephanie Report post Posted April 21, 2006 Hmm my child is a bit like that .. does this child know how to read or have a really keen interest in the written word? Alphabet? Reads things on walls? Looks at written information a lot? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zemanski Report post Posted April 21, 2006 almost sounds like this child learned to read before he learned to speak? there is a chance with hyperlexia and ASC of this happening - the speech delay associated with ASC holding speech back but the decoding of symbols being advanced without necessarily having comprehension to match, then learnng to speak using the decoding skills. - very curious It is fairly common for AS kids to learn extensive vocabulary from reading and then mispronouncing words, sometimes for the rest of their lives, because they've learned them phonetically but this is unusual to say the least - might be worth talking to his mum or carer to find out how his speech developed. Zemanski Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
on the edge Report post Posted April 21, 2006 Hi, My sons speech therapist reckons he has semantic pragmatic speech disorder. He associates word sounds together such as he says Christmas for Crisps, and Thomas for tops. He has an aunty called Hayley- and he calls his toy helicopter an Aunty-Hayley-Copter, apparently that is classic semantic pragmatic. She is an excellent therapist and is coming tomorrow so I will ask her if what your describing would come under difficulties with phonology if you like??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephanie Report post Posted April 22, 2006 I think my son is hyperlexic, he has been able to read since he was 2 or 3 ... if you are going down this route, look into "Babies that Read" it is a fantastic book with excellent advice - speech included. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darky Report post Posted April 22, 2006 my son used to speak something like this, sounds kind of posh. when we were with the speech and language therapist between hubby and her they described his speech as being "deliberate" meaning exact precise exentuated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites