col Report post Posted May 17, 2006 I remember the thread about ASD. Where you either you got it or you ahven't and that it can't be mild, moderate severe etc. Just wondering if all of you felt the same for Dyslexia and ADHD/ADD. Just feel like screaming as DD7 LSA is saying she can't see the ADD>ADHD in my daughter and that her dyslexia is only mild......... I feel like telling her to have my daughter for a few days. Try and get her washed, dressed, fed and get her to sleep then she will know differently. Just worried as she has statement review next month and that her LSA may give the LEA reason to cut back on her LSA support at her new school. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gladysmay Report post Posted May 17, 2006 when people say this I always think its like saying a liitle bit pregnant!? how absurd, you are or are not. I cant imagine what the LSA menas by not being able to see the dyslexia, and are they qualified to make this statement? I see what you mean about the potential for them to steer the outcome of the review by saying such things. I hope there is someone with more precise advice on this as to how this can be tacked but good luck:) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flora Report post Posted May 17, 2006 Someone once said to me that Luke has a 'touch of autism', made it sound like a day in bed and a dose of calpol would sort him out. Lauren Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phasmid Report post Posted May 17, 2006 Two weeks before that review you should have received 'ALL' the paperwork that is being circulated to all those attending. That will give you a chance to see what has been writen and give you time to draft a response to it for the meeting. If they fail to do this call a halt to it until they do so. HTH Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
col Report post Posted May 17, 2006 Her fave saying is "she's doing really well!!" HUH???? What planet is this person on! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elaine1 Report post Posted May 17, 2006 Someone once said to me that Luke has a 'touch of autism', made it sound like a day in bed and a dose of calpol would sort him out. Lauren Lauren thats just what our gp said tom has mild autism, i felt like saying oh will he be cured in a while then? stupid people you wd think proffessionals would learn but i keep hearing this over and over again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zemanski Report post Posted May 17, 2006 Dyslexia is different from ASCs in that part of the diagnosis will state the severity based on the impact of the specific learning difficulty on a person's functioning - if you have diagnosis from the dyslexia institute they will usually give a rating; Dot is severely dyslexic, no one can read a word she writes, not even her and it affects her in all sorts of other ways , but there is one category even more severe and several not so bad, including mild. Other specific learning difficulties are categorised in the same way. However, ASCs are not specific learning difficulties. An ASC is a neurological condition and you either have it or you don't. The impact on a person's life may be severe or less severe, and the character of the presentation may be divided into subgroups such as Kanners (classic) autism or AS, but the condition itself is not different and cannot be categorised as mild or severe in the same way as a specific learning difficulty. Zemanski Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flora Report post Posted May 18, 2006 zemanski that is a good point. Luke does have dyslexia, categorised on the dx report as moderate because of the score from the assessment. I hadn't though of that when I read this post. Lauren Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian Jordan Report post Posted May 18, 2006 A good idea is to find out the definition of dyslexia that they are using - they vary wildly, and testing techniques vary too, from excellent to incompetent. You need to get as much info from them as possible - then analyse what they have done - and what they haven't. You need to find out about the criteria for each "grade" of dyslexia - you have to be prepared to argue on their terms - without knowledge it is very difficult. Do NOT assume they are expert - and beware manipulation of evidence. There are varying degrees of problems with making sense of reading and writing. Have they assessed vision, hearing, memory, cognitive processes, feedback and more? Or is it half a test? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
col Report post Posted May 18, 2006 Her EP results from "british ability scales, second edition" GCA 100 Cluster scores:- verbal 103 nonverbal 86 spatial ability 111 achievement scores:- number skills 89 spelling 82 word reading 85 verbal subtest- word definitions percentile 54 verbal similarities 62% nonverbal reasoning subtests:- Matrice 12% quantitive reasoning 34% spatial subtest:- recall of designs 88% pattern construction 54% diagnostic subtests:- recall of digits forward 18% achievements in basic skills:- number skills 23% spelling 12% word reading 16% WISC-III TESTS digit span 5% scaled score 5 coding A 50% scaled score 10 WOODCOCK III tests visual matching-2 standard score 95, 37% rapid picture naming standard score 96, 39% the ep used to work for DI for 10 years and has got at least 3 books out on dyslexia. hearing is fine. Update on the eyes situation, have got a app at the hospital in July.(basically for CYA purposes) Have asked her paed for a re-referral to the OT. Her paed who is kinda new to her thought i was asking about the opitical team where actually i was asking for the occupational therapy(think it's now sorted). I even went to a different optican, as DD7 specialist lang teacher thinks that vision express is %$^&. That i needed to go to an older family orientated optican. So have done that and DD7 vision is still really good. The only thing that she has noticed is that DD7 has problems with tracking and puts that down to the dyspraxia side of things. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue-Kat Report post Posted May 18, 2006 yes I think dyslexia does come in different strenths, my 14 old daughter has it mildy and eldest son - moderate. my 10 yr son hasn't been formally dx with dyslexia, but would say it is severe,he's got the full fat version at a guess his reading age is that of a 3 - 4 yr old, doesn't know the alphabet, nor letter sounds, he can barely write in name and this is with the help of 1:1 specialist tuition, yet has been scored at 'superior' in other IQ test areas. just my opinion can't comment on ADHD. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darky Report post Posted May 18, 2006 yes i was told by a dyslexia specialist that my son has moderate to severe dyslexia. i agree that dyslexia can be mild moderate and severe because there are scores that indicate such. however, i do not agree in mild, moderate or severe adhd or asd. because they whole point of the dx of these conditions is the symptoms have to be "pervasive" if the symptoms are not pervasive, it would not warrent a dx in the first place, if that makes sense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
col Report post Posted May 18, 2006 Just fed up with DD7 LSA. Keeps saying she's doing really well and that before the screening test at the school and the dx was saying that she didn't think DD7 had it as she only had a few dyslexic traits. And now that i've got the dx is saying that "we knew that anyway!". And that she can't see the ADD>ADHD cos she has read about it in books!! Hope she has enjoyed reading DD7 new SALT report!! "She was keen to initate conversation with me, however at times this was used to cause a distraction from the task in hand! DD7 was pleased with her successes during this block of therapy but is aware of her difficulties and show outward signs of frustration and then avoidance of task when a target sound or word is hard for her. For this reason an hour session was hard work for DD7 and she needed lots of encouragement and frequent breaks and rewards for her attempts." Am busy counting the weeks until she leaves Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian Jordan Report post Posted May 19, 2006 If visual tracking is a problem your child has a visual problem that needs sorting out. Dyspraxia is often caused by eye movement problems NOT the other way round!!!!! Her EP results from "british ability scales, second edition" GCA 100 Cluster scores:- verbal 103 nonverbal 86 spatial ability 111 achievement scores:- number skills 89 spelling 82 word reading 85 verbal subtest- word definitions percentile 54 verbal similarities 62% nonverbal reasoning subtests:- Matrice 12% quantitive reasoning 34% spatial subtest:- recall of designs 88% pattern construction 54% diagnostic subtests:- recall of digits forward 18% achievements in basic skills:- number skills 23% spelling 12% word reading 16% WISC-III TESTS digit span 5% scaled score 5 coding A 50% scaled score 10 WOODCOCK III tests visual matching-2 standard score 95, 37% rapid picture naming standard score 96, 39% the ep used to work for DI for 10 years and has got at least 3 books out on dyslexia. hearing is fine. Update on the eyes situation, have got a app at the hospital in July.(basically for CYA purposes) Have asked her paed for a re-referral to the OT. Her paed who is kinda new to her thought i was asking about the opitical team where actually i was asking for the occupational therapy(think it's now sorted). I even went to a different optican, as DD7 specialist lang teacher thinks that vision express is %$^&. That i needed to go to an older family orientated optican. So have done that and DD7 vision is still really good. The only thing that she has noticed is that DD7 has problems with tracking and puts that down to the dyspraxia side of things. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites