Blue-Kat Report post Posted April 29, 2006 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4950668.stm BBC NEWS 'I have four autistic sons and no sleep' By Jane Elliott BBC News health reporter Jacqui Jackson has not had a proper night's sleep for years. She is the mother of seven children, ranging from nine to 23 years old, four of whom have some form of autism. Jacqui, whose story was featured in a TV documentary, is used to going for nights without any sleep at all. On other nights she cat naps for two or three hours at a time. "Physically it does take its toll," she says. "It gets you down and it affects how you work. "I am doing a PHD into sensory issues in autistic children and I find it very hard to write my thesis when I am so tired. Remedies "We have tried everything to improve the children's sleep patterns, from drugs to homeopathy and massage. I have tried everything I can. "One thing that did have a slight effect was melatonin, but nothing worked well or for long." I am not superwoman, but I can go on with two or three hours a night, sometimes without any sleep at all Jacqui Jackson Luke, aged 18 has Aspergers Syndrome and has erratic sleep patterns. When he was younger he slept during the day, even now his sleeping is fitful. Ben, who is aged nine and autistic, has still not slept for a full night. Joe, aged 13 has ADHD and sleeps soundly once asleep, but Jacqui said it takes a lot of time to get him to drop off. And Matthew, who is 23, who has milder autism, had and still has problems sleeping. "I am not superwoman, but I can go on with two or three hours a night, sometimes without any sleep at all. But they need 24-hour care. "They have food allergies, and without somebody watching them they will go rampaging around the kitchen. "We have alarms on all the doors and on the medicine cabinets," she said. "We live in a bungalow and the boys sleep downstairs and the three girls upstairs. "They have locks on their doors and because of all the noise they can now sleep through anything." Sleep Although Jacqui's family's situation is so severe, studies have shown that of the 500,000 people on the autistic spectrum in the UK most have some sort of sleep problems. Over a third of them suffer from serious sleep problems that are debilitating for their families, partners and carers. Now Research Autism has set up a forum to get parents, carers and experts together to try and share experiences and see if they can find solutions. The first meeting was held this month and there are hopes to have similar meetings twice a year. Sleep deprivation is used as a form of torture by some regimes Richard Mills "They are hoping to help offer practical solutions for different sleep patterns," Jacqui explained. Richard Mills, director of research for the National Autistic Society and Research Autism, said solving sleep problems was vital to promote well-being. "We are talking about people having only three or four hours sleep a night. "Others can be awake at night and asleep during the day, some go without sleep for days and others sleep so much they can not be roused. "What we are trying to do with this forum is to bring people together with people who might be able to help them." He said it was vital to remember that the problem also affected adults with autism as well as children. "This could be people in their 40s and 50s who have had these problems all their lives and have not got better. "No one thing seems to be effective for everyone, but what we are hoping to do is to look at the problem in its entirety." Torture He said it was important that the problem was tackled urgently. "After all sleep deprivation is used as a form of torture by some regimes," he said. Jacqui Jackson said she was not expecting the forum to come up with an immediate solution to her family's sleep problems, but she did hope to be able to share her tips on sleep management in the hope of helping others. "I can tell them about a myriad of things that might work for them. What is not working for my boys could work for other people." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue-Kat Report post Posted April 29, 2006 I've tried - and failed - to find the Reserach Autism sleep forum mentioned in the article. our 10 yr old son is having problems settling at night., the whole bedtime thing is a nightmare, it's just getting later and later we're putting on a relaxing music tape on at night for him to listen to, which helps him to calm a bit, but he often still comes in us becasue he's feeling unsettled. anyone else using relaxation and /or music for their kids at bedtime? I was wondering about trying the a Relax kids guided relaxation CD with my son L. but nothing too fanciful and 'imaginative' . has anyone used their new CD? Quiet Spaces Calming bedtime meditations for children - NEW ! A selection of calming meditations to encourage deep rest and reassurance Parents - Buy this if your child has trouble sleeping or suffers from hyperactivity http://www.relaxkids.com/index.php My 14 yr old daughter (who isn't dx with AS) is on melatonin for ME-related severe sleep problems. However we're wondering if she does in fact have some milder AS traits .... - Katya Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flora Report post Posted April 29, 2006 I've tried a few things with William, but so far the only thing that has worked for any length of time is melatonin.... he is on 5mg which I give him about an hour before I want him to go to bed and so far it's been a god send. I'd be intrested to find this forum. Lauren Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian Jordan Report post Posted April 29, 2006 It is often worth trying the optimeyes lamp as it reduces arousal levels for some (but not all) EEGs show changes in the occipital cortex in 9 - 11 hz frequencies Borrow one first to see if they work - try 0114 2315666 They are not cheap (around ?300) so try before buying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue-Kat Report post Posted April 29, 2006 Hi Ian can you tell me a bit more about the lamp ? my daughter has tried using a SAD light over the winter. your visual dyslxia site is also very interesting, unfortunately I can't read the 'what is Visual dyslexia?' page, it doesn't show up properly in Firefox or ie, the nav bar overlaps the text. L ( my 10 yr old ) is severely dyslexic , he has huge difficulty with text, in he can't reliably write his own name. for AS soon, which I believe includes eye test. thanks - Katya Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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patrick w Report post Posted April 30, 2006 Dont know if helpful..my AS son sleeps day and up most of night now..he is 13/14...But when he was small, i used to find books on tape extremely effective... especially, the hobbit or other bbc classics.. the voices are soporific and calming... i found he drifted off with these on..otherwise it was pretty touigh... he never really slept all the way through though, and that's where the sharing a bed became a bad habit as i was too tired to go and start the whole thing off again.. but the tapes were good for him...they did work Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites