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      Depression, Mental Health and Crisis Support   06/04/2017

      Depression, Mental Health and Crisis Support   Depression and other mental health difficulties are common amongst people on the autistic spectrum and their carers.   People who are affected by general mental health difficulties are encouraged to receive and share information, support and advice with other forum members, though it is important to point out that this exchange of information is generally based on personal experience and opinions, and is not a substitute for professional medical help.   There is a list of sources of mental health support here: <a href="http://www.asd-forum.org.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=18801" target="_blank">Mental Health Resources link</a>   People may experience a more serious crisis with their mental health and need urgent medical assistance and advice. However well intentioned, this is not an area of support that the forum can or should be attempting to offer and we would urge members who are feeling at risk of self-harm or suicide to contact either their own GP/health centre, or if out of hours contact NHS Direct on 0845 4647 or to call emergency services 999.   We want to reassure members that they have our full support in offering and seeking advice and information on general mental health issues. Members asking for information in order to help a person in their care are seeking to empower both themselves and those they represent, and we would naturally welcome any such dialogue on the forum.   However, any posts which are deemed to contain inference of personal intent to self-harm and/or suicide will be removed from the forum and that person will be contacted via the pm system with advice on where to seek appropriate help.   In addition to the post being removed, if a forum member is deemed to indicate an immediate risk to themselves, and are unable to be contacted via the pm system, the moderating team will take steps to ensure that person's safety. This may involve breaking previous confidentiality agreements and/or contacting the emergency services on that person's behalf.   Sometimes posts referring to self-harm do not indicate an immediate risk, but they may contain material which others find inappropriate or distressing. This type of post will also be removed from the public forum at the moderator's/administrator's discretion, considering the forum user base as a whole.   If any member receives a PM indicating an immediate risk and is not in a position (or does not want) to intervene, they should forward the PM to the moderating team, who will deal with the disclosure in accordance with the above guidelines.   We trust all members will appreciate the reasoning behind these guidelines, and our intention to urge any member struggling with suicidal feelings to seek and receive approproiate support from trained and experienced professional resources.   The forum guidelines have been updated to reflect the above.   Regards,   The mod/admin team


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  1. greetings

    Yes, only though for a limited duration, be it until the end of the day, or however long, thereafter nothing more can be done about written errors at my point of interface. This has already been addressed on the other thread, and this problem with editing remains as stated here also.
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    Wording errors, spelling mistakes, and so fourth. I found the thread, but as the edit function only remains viable for a short time after posting, alas, the question remains.
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    I have made three attempts to respond to you since you last posted Ferret, but I did away with the first one due to an error on my part, and the other two were done away with from the system memory before I was able to get them totally finished. Literary exhaustion after weeks of lost work has taken over now, but it has given me leave to write that you really do seem very much to be my twin brother from another mother, and of course - the game is most certainly on.
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    1.) In terms of being competitive with yourself, perhaps watch over that one very carefully (in the compassionate sense of caring), as winning needs losers as already mentioned concerning 'Competitive Hierarchical Ethos'. Keep safe and secure in mind that collaboration (or working together as musicians do) is the key to regarding the enlightening harmony or intuition of the inner-self - or deep seated knower. After all, the deep seated knower seriously does know a thing or two about comfy sofas with two really really comfy seats - and Ferret treats particularly in your case! 2.) I also literally 'see' in my case 'spiro-grahic' geometrically swirly and twirly patterns, and on first reading the characteristic patterns of your writing - I assumed that something similar was on the go or the case with you too. Do you recall the geometric system I listed a while back? With additional sensibility descriptives now added: 8.) Geomatrix >> White >> Intuitional >> White Noise 7.) Heptagon >> Violet >> Rational >> C* high 6.) Hexagon >> Indigo >> Sentimental >> B* 5.) Pentagon >> Blue >> Communicational >> A* 4.) Square (+) >> Green >> Emotional >> G** 3.} Triangle >> Yellow >> Imaginal >> F* 2.) Circle >> Orange >> Reproductional >> D* 1.) Line >> Red >> Sensational >> C* low 0.) Point >> Black >> Environmental >> Black Noise * Do not be surprised if I have got the notes in the wrong order ~ B may be D, F may be A and all that ~ as dyslexia so rules with me. ** The Masonic 'G' if that rings any of those grand-architectural-diatonic-concert-pitch-Fibonacci-shells-and-weighing-bells states of affairs for you? 3.) Polarities involve negative, positive and neutral states - you only seem to be using the negative (worth-less) and positive (worth-while) states and excluding the neutral values gradient between the two. Recall the Receptive, Protective and Projective capacities and functions of each state of the seven inter-phasic networks of the mind/body relationship? Of course, I may have misinterpreted things, but I always reserve the right to at least be entirely wrong! 4.) Rather than the energy being diverted and lost in competition, it is divided and its focus is diminished in the peripheral sense, and enhanced in the centralizing point of focus sense. Or in other words the bigger-picture is reduced in terms of intuitional triangulation and empathic relativity, as by proportion tunnel vision is increased in terms of imaginal specificity and reproductive co-ordination for sensational affect and or effect. The old problems of having affairs with fantasy whilst missing or becoming separated or even divorced from reality start creeping in. The N.A.S. community leader board as of 01:33 12/07/2017 featured photographs of two people's faces rather than avatar images - mildly sketchy to say the least perhaps? 5.) Posed 'look-at-me' photographs really are in my opinion weirdly strange. 6.) I think that some proportion of O.P.s will be pretty much constant regarding their decision making processes; as people tend to like what they like or know what best suits them and so fourth ~ recalling the Autistic tendency to being particular, fussy, exacting, specific or even pedantic. The old proverb that you can can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it drink comes to mind. None the less though, some O.P.s does not account for all O.P.s, and the Content/Value and the Quality/Worth of the Replies/Answers will be diminished ~ if the aspirational stability of the Self-centric 'I am as I am' characterisation; is converted to the compulsive instability of the Ego-centric 'I will be as I become' re-characterisation ~ i.e., top of the chart, most mentioned, most achievements, most followers, most friends and all that sort of pride before the fall thing. 7.) The Munchausen-By-Proxy, Stockholm-Syndrome, Guardian-Role-Transfer or just plain Normalised Abuse problem involving supporters, followers, leaders, abstainers, protestors, militants and deviants along with social stratification and segregation into inferior, mediocre and superior sub-classes of community members . . . well it might not be so bad given the Autistic tendency for some to be moral and ethical industrial diamonds, and some alot more egalitarian, but again this does not account for all and that is not good. 8.) 'Reportedly' all the comments about what could be better about the last site from Autistic people went into choosing the new site format. It was also 'reportedly' tested out by Autistic people on mobile phones for which the new format is designed. The sudden change of format with no how to use the site pages was though a complete discrimination against the regulars - who might also have been some of the testers so as to offer instruction to others regarding what was what and where; instead of all the benighted confusions and upsets that started on that fateful Wednesday. 9.) I only make demands (insistences or peremptory requests to sort things out) when people behave disrespectfully or malevolently, and that is all. Authoritarianism or elitism is a sociological misnomer based upon ungrounded and unreasoned abstract constructs - normally involving at least psychological humiliation (ageism, sexism and tribalism), or at most physiological annihilation (lynching, ethnic cleansing and war), and many people make demands on this basis - and are therefore deluded. 10.) So like yourself with the N.A.S. types hypocrisy and condescension, I am not into it either ~ in the sense that I attend the dance but I do not dance that dance. I support people who are neurologically divergent or not, I do not support organisations, and the vast majority of people, in excess of ninety percent, are victims of normalised abuse themselves anyway ~ whether they be unsanely or insanely neurotypical or not. 11.) My reasonable adjustment for this pervasive madness ~ is comprehensive compassion and understanding; "Forgive them for they know not what they do." sort of thing, as most people ignorantly abuse themselves by unwitting abusing others into collectively abusive stupidity or insanity too. There is as such a major affirmation shortage going on on this planet, and I do my bit to address that shortage - by preaching what I practice. I do not have my pass plate yet as I am still learning not to drive myself any madder than I already am. Most importantly though, it is neither your job, my job, nor anyone's job to fix the sociopathic mess going on around us, as it is everyone's responsibility to reduce their part in it by setting the example of what life affirming behaviour and discussion actually is. 13.) Little by little we are getting there, and the N.A.S. has played a huge part in increasing awareness not only about A.S.D., but in part neurological diversity also with many other groups and communities of people doing pretty much the same thing. Yay. But oh my absolute being and infinite becoming ~ that website needs help. Any huge non-profit computing companies out there that might feel intrigued about doing a total programming charity job to create a platform that serves the broadest extent of people on the A.S.D. spectrum ~ let the N.A.S. and ourselves know, perhaps? 14.) I have got to say, it is not tenacity that I have ~ that got extensively burnt out years back anyway. It is actually more patience in that I have temporal aphasia, or no sense of time passing, and a narrow or singular range of interests which I follow slowly but progressively heel to toe; heal to toe; heel to toe. I take each step as being gently and evenly placed and then firmly and evenly trod ~ as I have poor foresight but richly exacting hindsight. In this way I really have over the decades learnt from my mistakes; rather than punishing myself for them and thereby repeating them ~ sod all that malarkey I thought and did! Thus when my well being is compromised, as it has been for the last week, I have rather than walking written away these ills as if Milo with his brother Sherlock solving the 'Website' of the Baskervilles case!
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    Hi Ferret, Yay, so good to read your words and grin humorously with Cheshire-Cat pleasure once again. There is unfortunately no new level of hell alas ~ as hell has itself been fully and completely replaced by the N.A.S forum! Nothing hell was could possibly compare to what the N.A.S site now is. Got though a 'Colour-That-Site' app to change the stark white glare and the lurid magenta-red to a colour scheme my retinas and sensory systems can deal with. Eye-strain, migraine and seizures no longer induced. Do not like like everyone else does not like the 'nested threading' (as allows a person to answer say the third post of perhaps ten; with their answer becoming the fourth post of then eleven in the thread ~ for those who know not as I knew not). It is a mucking fragmentation and sequential confusion reigns! I completely and utterly understand and comprehend that you might not be, and fair play, but are you perhaps open to returning to the NAS site; as the site needs to be changed for the better, and it would be even better yet still if you were also, along with the rest of us, involved in the concerted effort to do so? Whichever way though, your first or last post on the new N.A.S site is very much appreciated, seriously well put, nice one.
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  8. Major Forum Software Upgrade

    Creative refinement does not seem to be a possibility here. The quote function is only temporary - I assume until you sign out for other destinations. Hey ho!
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    Eureka - now I see Edit by the Quote; I was blind and now I see . . . . . . . Thumph!
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    Hi Lufty. I was writing about deleting in the 'editing' sense of things and all that - not completely deleting them! These posts are the children of my mind, and writing viable stuff is a labour of love. Can you or does anyone else know how to access or better yet still 'recognize' the edit function . . . ? Deepthought
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    I have asked this question elsewhere but here would of have been more appropriate, so is there a way of deleting/correcting written errors or irregularities once posted?
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    Hi Ferret, The legal and general situation was resolved with an edit job. Apologies for any inconvenience. Hi Trekster, or anyone else that knows, Is there an edit function on this website system at all, or is it only achievable by asking a moderator? Just as a question though.
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    Ferret, Are you available for Sherlock scene of the crime Ferretic investigation services, and logic-topic check. I went a bit Milo with the perpetration of going all legal and general on one of the other forums. The 'new-look' is a major visual hypersensitivity issue for me, and I was focused on being all big and polite and diplomatic - but as the eyestrain and headache were getting worse, I was getting all the more annoyed with the situation, and the diplomat was done away with. One member had tended their resignation, and my fellow Autling defense mode abetted me in making a case of things.
  15. Should the NAS get out of AS and HFA?

    Being charitable as a person and being a charity are separate issues as individuals are able to choose whichever way and to whichever extent they wish to be charitable, whereas a charity can only provide for that which they are specifically set up to do. The concept of government funded charities as being government service providers is common knowledge for those who work in the organizational structures of charities - whilst unsurprisingly many people have little or even no comprehension of how charities work beyond collecting or giving donations. As for the charity or quango business - a charity does not stop being a charity on account of having become a quango, and there are thousands of charities operating specifically as they do on account of being funded by the government. The strings attached supposition regarding how government funding is spent is a contractual matter based purely upon how the charity is actually set up to operate - which for the N.A.S. is: 1.) Providing educational establishments for children with autism. 2.) Providing residential services for those children when they leave those schools. 3.) Providing an information and advice service. Wanting more than this is like going to one service provider when another is required. With the information provision of the N.A.S. it provides exactly what it has been set up to do, and being that you favor other websites it is not as if the N.A.S. are going to complain considering how overwhelmed they are with people they 'can' help, and how much more overwhelmed they are with people they 'can't' help. The N.A.S. is quite literally being dumped on regarding the incapacity of the N.H.S. to provide adequate or even any services for people with A.S.D.. The N.H.S. has to refer patients somewhere else before those patients realize there is nothing freely available in terms of any support - being that N.H.S. staff are themselves already being insanely overwhelmed by the people they 'can' help, and even more insanely overwhelmed by those who they 'can't' help. When it comes to the possible A.S. and H.F.A. charity it would not 'have' to integrate with the N.A.S., yet as a charity that it is long established, well respected and knows how to hold its ground in terms of achieve funding requirements - it could be of major assistance to the proposed charity for providing adult practical support to compensate for the N.A.S. in terms of only being able to provide informative support. The reason this might be worthwhile is that the N.A.S. is set up to do as it does, and changing this would involve a massive overhaul of and additions to the entire organization - as would be extremely disruptive to their service provision. Your question as to which year A.S. was publicized by the N.A.S., depending on how much research you wish to do, can be answered to some extent at: http://www.autism.org.uk/timeline