claire33 Report post Posted April 1, 2007 Hi Sorry had to ask ive just been reading on this website something that was basically saying to have aspergers you must have average or above average intelligents. If that is the case i have thought all this time that this could be what my k has only to find out today it isn't? Apparently learning disabilitys are associated more with autism than aspergers i thought they were one in the same thing??? Is it right?????? Because if so my k is well below average doe sthat mean he is AS??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
di30 Report post Posted April 1, 2007 Hi Claire My son is 12 yrs old and has been informed as having aspergers syndrome, by his specialists and yet he does have some learning difficulties. His IQ is a bit younger than his age going by the latest school assessment tests, although these have varied throughout the years. As a baby he was quite forward with some developments and as soon as he started school he had shown he was struggling, but mainly with social interaction, communication etc. He prefers to read books for older people and have always seemed to struggle on books for kids,...........why we don't know why as we done a great deal of reading with him throughout his life, we thought it may have been something to do with his eyesight, but this was ruled out with tests. Daniel prefers adult company and have always done so and can show he can be really intelligent. He has a fantastic talent with ART. He can copy from anything, mainly cartoon characters like 'The Simpsons' or Futurama and they have to be perfect or if he doesnt think so he will do it all over again. We noticed his talent with Art when he was about 5 yrs old, drawing dinousaurs, they were so perfect. I think in my opinion they can all be pretty intelligent, learning difficuties or not, even though my son does have support at school with Literacy, Numeracy and Social skills. My son shows great deal of traits regarding aspergers, and this was said by the specialist, even though he has struggled at school and yet he can be so bright with other things. Sorry if it seems that I'm going off the subject a bit, as I know it can be confusing. I also have a Severely autistic brother who is 41 yrs old, he has no speech but again he will draw pictures all day, he will do a lot of rocking, but he knows whats what. He is very clever too lol, and to me that is intelligence. All the best. Di x Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krystaltps Report post Posted April 1, 2007 I really don't know for sure. I do know that MOST people with AS have average or above average intelligence, but I also know that children with AS demonstrate a kind of "Swiss cheese" profile of development, e.g. My C, who is 8 and has AS, has an IQ of 138, but he cannot find his socks in his sock drawer, he forgets that he has asked the same question 5 times previously in the past half hour, he gets lost if by himself, he will never remember his times tables, if you give him a task to do - he'll go to do it but return having forgotten to do it and absolutely oblivious to the fact he was supposed to be doing something. I guess to most he would appear to be below average in the intelligence dept, but when it comes to the academics he's your man. C does have learning difficulties, but they're more to do with organisational skills and short-term memory. If people can develop strategies to help him overcome these difficulties, then he is able to learn. Has your boy had an IQ test (the proper Weschler one for children, performed by a qualified person?) Also there are several different kinds of intelligence, but an IQ test only really measure a couple of these. It's possible that if your boy has had a low score it's problems with AS that have caused it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
claire33 Report post Posted April 2, 2007 Thanx krystaltps no he hasnt had a proper IQ test done to be honest i dont think he would manage it. but you made a goood point there about AS possibly being the reason, he hasnt got a diagnosis of as as yet but i am pretty sure he has it or is definately on the spectrum somewhere. I wish they would give him one as at the minute its like being blind not knowing it is taking forever and its not helping him in the long run as hes missing out on the help he needs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa Report post Posted April 2, 2007 Intelligence and attainment are two different things. Just because your son doesn't achieve at school, it doesn't mean he's not capable or doesn't have the potential to suceed, probably more likely that he needs support to enable him to access the curriculum. He could well be highly intelligent. My son was in all bottom groups in his class, we couldn't understand why because he seemed so intelligent. Everyone used to say to us how clever he was for his age, he constantly asked questions. He had a really horrible teacher one year who refused to believe he could have AS. She told us that he was "just a slow learner" and we needed to accept that someone has to be in bottom group and unfortunately it's our son!! He was diagnosed a couple of weeks later and during testing it was found he had an IQ of 147!! He's now a member of MENSA and the NAGTY and he's doing really well academically since he got his 1:1 support, so don't take your son's attainment as an indication of his intelligence. Lisa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
