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      Depression, Mental Health and Crisis Support   Depression and other mental health difficulties are common amongst people on the autistic spectrum and their carers.   People who are affected by general mental health difficulties are encouraged to receive and share information, support and advice with other forum members, though it is important to point out that this exchange of information is generally based on personal experience and opinions, and is not a substitute for professional medical help.   There is a list of sources of mental health support here: <a href="http://www.asd-forum.org.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=18801" target="_blank">Mental Health Resources link</a>   People may experience a more serious crisis with their mental health and need urgent medical assistance and advice. However well intentioned, this is not an area of support that the forum can or should be attempting to offer and we would urge members who are feeling at risk of self-harm or suicide to contact either their own GP/health centre, or if out of hours contact NHS Direct on 0845 4647 or to call emergency services 999.   We want to reassure members that they have our full support in offering and seeking advice and information on general mental health issues. Members asking for information in order to help a person in their care are seeking to empower both themselves and those they represent, and we would naturally welcome any such dialogue on the forum.   However, any posts which are deemed to contain inference of personal intent to self-harm and/or suicide will be removed from the forum and that person will be contacted via the pm system with advice on where to seek appropriate help.   In addition to the post being removed, if a forum member is deemed to indicate an immediate risk to themselves, and are unable to be contacted via the pm system, the moderating team will take steps to ensure that person's safety. This may involve breaking previous confidentiality agreements and/or contacting the emergency services on that person's behalf.   Sometimes posts referring to self-harm do not indicate an immediate risk, but they may contain material which others find inappropriate or distressing. This type of post will also be removed from the public forum at the moderator's/administrator's discretion, considering the forum user base as a whole.   If any member receives a PM indicating an immediate risk and is not in a position (or does not want) to intervene, they should forward the PM to the moderating team, who will deal with the disclosure in accordance with the above guidelines.   We trust all members will appreciate the reasoning behind these guidelines, and our intention to urge any member struggling with suicidal feelings to seek and receive approproiate support from trained and experienced professional resources.   The forum guidelines have been updated to reflect the above.   Regards,   The mod/admin team
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Information for Adults and some informal Local groups are run by DANDA.


Developmental Adult Neuro-Diversity Association (DANDA)

46 Westere Road

London NW2 3RU


Tel: 020 7435 7891




May join for a small fee and information on adult issues and information can

be obtained. I found them very helpful and kind. Run by people with ASDs for

us. Brilliant! Good mix of people in the group I went to.

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Information for Adults and some informal Local groups are run by DANDA.


Just to add that I have had some dealings with people quite high-up in DANDA and they're fantastic people BUT I dislike strongly, for reasons I can't easily explain, the term "neurodiverse". It is perhaps because such terms make the acknowledgement that I have a (potentially severely) disabling impairment less likely, and maybe also because it's a fairly direct rejection of the term 'disabled' itself and I'm fairly big on Disability Pride, and also calling a spade a spade and having done with it. I'm disabled. I'm a Disabled Person. The campaign for Disability Rights is the campaign for rights that my friends and I are frequently denied - I don't feel any need to be a member of any more clubs than one specific one (autistic people) and one general one (disabled people).


Dunno really. It just makes me uneasy. Weird. Janet (their leadery person) I like very much, though.

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The United Nations recognised ASDs as a "handicap" in 1975

The European Union adopted a European Charter of Autism in 1996

The UK is signed up to both conventions.

ASDs are disabilities or handicaps. I like handicap because it says with the right help you can be do something as well as the next person like in golf.

Neurodiversity is not saying that people are not handicapped or disabled. It is saying we NTs should stop treating them as in some way second class citizens. In fact the biggest inhibitor to people with MH probs is the attitudes of other people towards people with MH probs. I see ASDs as having the same probs about other people's ideas of what ASds are.

Geek. Counts street light numbers. Collects bus tickets. Knows timetables off by heart. No No No.

Has some information processing and communication probs and heightened sensory perception. Has some extraordinary gifts in some areas of factual knowledge. Has difficulty organising things and expressing concepts.

Example 1 World expert obsessive nutritionist. Knows all about horses. Has an extraordinary gift for reading and can remember charts of information. Expert knowledge of neuroscience. Expert knowledge of learning difficulties. Cannot take a phone message. Terrified to make a phone call, answer door. Cannot follow conversation or conceptualise at basic level - but can link at higher level an array of apparently unconnected information.

Example 2 Professional standard skateboarder. Expert on Brazilian football. Expert at mixing drum and base music. Perfect pitch and ability to retain rythm through overlaid rythm - extremely rare. Gifted at logic.

Cannot follow conversation or conceptualise at basic level. High level of anxiety and depressed.

The claim for ND is that there is no such thing as NT, it is a con. And therefore to have treatments to make people NT is also a con.

But ASDs do need recognition that they function at their own personal best in a way that is not NT and to do this they need to have others accept that they have a handicap or disability that means they need the rest of society to give them help to be themselves both financially and in terms of how their role in and contribution to society is valued by those who are not themselves gifted in the ASD way.

And I include all ASDs not just the so called high functioning ones in this because there is a key measure of a society that is how it treats and values its least able members that determines whether society is civilised.

Edited by research boffin1

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