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You don't know what you're on about! You're making up stuff to stick the knife in my back. There is NO HELP. Not from social services, not from anywhere I have no money!!

I CAN'T SURVIVE WITHOUT MONEY!!! US ASPIES ARE WORTH BEING PAID WE AREN'T SUBHUMAN AND INFERIOR!!!

Victim blaming!!! Stop being disablist! You are anti-'aspie' not me. You know NOTHING or what I am like or my circumstances are. I get turned away for mentioning Aspergers which is a toxic label to most of these organisations. I times I've seen and heard the look of disgust for even mentioning Aspergers is many, many many. At one employment/recruitment agency I went to years ago, I heard Aspergers sufferers compared to sex offenders and drug addict, "we don't want people like you, our client businesses certainly don't", all because I mentioned having something that is not imaginary or feigned but real. I was blocked from starting A-levels twice, had to take a university course fouth on my list despite having required A-levels because 'special needs' is bad bad bad, keep away, bad. I don;t like a cosy middle-class cosseted lifestyle with parents doing everything for me. I have to struggle but get nowhere, I dont live a sheltered life, middle class people believe the lies about equality of opportunity because they are the elite and get it easy. I am NOT AND NEVER doing voluntary work I need to HAVE MONEY, I CAN'T SURVIVE WITHOUT MONEY!!!!!!!!

WAS never have wanted to help me with forms You must be lucky, Do you get a care package to pay for help from them? They want more money than I could possibly supply with a normal job. I can't get 'skills for life' courses, too basic, you only get free courses if you have lower than GCSE qualifications.

What I mean is that I can't get more education, as there are no 'free' courses. I would need 'free' education as I do not have the means to pay anything. I don't have thousands of pounds for an education course. I wouldn't be upset and asking stuff here if I was, I would have a purpose then. At university I was told to , put up or shut up (those words), go to another university if it was so bad, etc. As that would be financially disastrous as I'd have to start a degree from scratch, I couldn't. I had to keep going or not have a degree. I kept going. I had stuff said at me all the time that would've lost people their jobs if it had been 'racial' or homophobic, but attacking 'aspies' and people with disabilities in general seems fair game to mainstream society. I want to do PAID work. There's no point working otherwise. Voluntary work is exploitative. You don't get paid, you will be out of pocket, you'll never get paid. If someone white said to a black person, you're biologically inferior, you must work for nothing, that is (rightly) considered BAD universally. I am NOT worthless, I am not going to work for nothing. Yeah, I mentioned it, it was closed down in 2010, there's nothing now. I have tried. What I was saying about personality disorder was that CAB person put that on my DLA form, not Aspergers, and they told me it was the same thing.

I don't think you realise, I never got as far as getting a social worker let alone personal budgets. Applied for DLA but rejected. Went to CAB for help with form. They put down 'personality disorder' on list as my condition instead of Aspergers, they said it was the same thing!!? (WTF?!). I was rejected. I do have a diagnosis of Aspergers, but never had ANY help off the NHS, the help and diagnosis was private, and NO, I can't afford private help. There was a charity that did specialised help with DLA etc claims for people with disabilities, but they got closed down two years ago Wessex Autistic Society has never wanted to know. Not worth contacting NAS, they are a SHAM organisation, absolutely don't care at all, 12, nearly 13, years has proven that to me. EDIT: I don't want to sound "bad", it's just I'm being sugggested things I have tried before, often may times, getting nowhere. I have PMed you a question.

Fox isn't my MP so I won't get a reply, and will be just as bad as my MP, as after all he is a Tory MP. I WANT to do more learning but CAN'T AFFORD IT. There is no "free" courses, I have no means of affording courses. Most likely they would turn me away even if I could pay. I wasn't allowed to do A-levels until I was 19! No one wanted me to do A-levels! I even have the required GCSE passes at 16. I had a tutor at university who wouldn't let me into his seminars because I was "special needs"! But main issue, can't afford any more education!! I want to do a Master degree for example, never will be able to afford it. Horrible, HORRIBLE when I tried one meeting group. They were all pushy middle class parents, no empathy, my Tarquin did this this and that, then you can (ignoring I don't have money or same class situation)! It's lek a part of their brain is missing,I have different circumstances/situations, they don't understand that, the wealthy often don't. I feel MUCH BETTER not trying to meet other 'aspies', that set me back quite a bit. I wasn't listened to, I was treated like dirt, which was the opposite of what I expected. Nowhere near me, I don't travel well!!! I don't want to mix with other 'aspies' in person. Not because I dislike 'aspies' just because of my bad experience before, and I realise the 'label' is so bad, I have to avoid it.

Weymouth is an enormous distance from me, two hours by train I can't afford that and have no one willing to take me, I don't live in that area.... WAS are trying to avoid helping me by shifting goalposts EDIT: sorry don't mean to reply 'badly', basically you have to realise I don't live in that geographical area.

You're making callous assumptions - I have NEVER been offered support then turned it down as unworthy, basically I've NEVER been offered support to "compromise" with. If organisation say, you need to pay this amount before we'll help, and I CAN'T AFFORD IT, that doesn't mean I haven't "comprised", that means I can't afford it!! If something is hours away in Dorchester and I have no transport and no means of affording getting there, I can't get there! I can never get a driving licence!

As people with a form of disability, we're ALL as 'aspies' and autistics considered public enemy no. 1 I'm afraid. It's a societywide pogrom.

You 'get' it.

I've been struggling since 2000 there's no help, even when we didn't have a Tory government dismantling the welfare state

Why should I lie and be delusional and claim everything is OK when it's not?

I just want basic support so I can live a better life!! If I could do things I intend to do unsupported,I'd have done them all by now!

Why does 'Aspies' vote Tory?! Tories are against all social minorities, we're a social minority, a vulnerable that needs help from the state, we're exactly what they dislike. Do people lack the most basic empathy and understanding of what the Tory party stands for?!

NAS have NOTHING nearby/local, I can't travel anywhere, they send the same form letters, going back to 2000, NO SUPPORT, GO AWAY, NOT OUR PROBLEM. I need help and support! Wessex Autistic Society is the nearest "local" one but they are still far, far, away, particularly as I have no transport. They want like £30 an hour to use their services, they also want "Direct Payments" but I can't get direct payments as Social Services won't even take me on as a client! Never have! They don't even respond! The MP and councillors I write to say I've got nothing wrong with me, otherwise social services would be helping me. So I have nowhere to go! I wouldn't ask for help if I didn't need it!!!

The mental health side say, you have a learning disability, go away, nothing to do with us, keep away, the learning disability side say, you aren't non-verbal, you have a degree, you don't have a learning disability, you have a mental illness. The mental health/illness social services and charities all say, go away, keep away, you're learning disabled, not mentally ill... I GET SENT FROM ONE TO THE OTHER, NO HELP. I NEED HELP! I AM ON THE VERGE OF SUICIDE AND I GET NO EMPATHY OR SUPPORT!

I HAVE TRIED THAT FOR YEARS. I was diagnosed with Aspergers in 2000 YET HAVE NEVER GOTTEN *ANY* HELP FROM *ANYWHERE*. NAS won't help, NEVER have, ALWAYS send me the same form letters. Wessex Autistic Society say, nope, go away, none of our problem, or ask to visit in Dorchester which I can't get to (I can't afford to travel anywhere, don't go out of the house for weeks on end, can't get a driving licence as I have epilepsy). They want MONEY that I DON'T HAVE. £30/hour plus travel!! I can't dream of being able to afford that!!! Even on a minimum wage job I couldn't afford that!! I don't care if there's 14 million Aspergers references on a search engine, IF THEY DON'T HELP ME, THEY ARE NO GOOD. LEARN BASIC EMPATHY! YOU SEEM TO LACK IT COMPLETELY! I have never had any help off social services, they say, mental health you need, mental health say, you have a learning disability, nothing to do with us, the learning disability side say, you are too intelligent, you're mentally ill, go away. Mencap refuse to help. All the learning disability charities tell me to go away and NEVER respond. I can't afford Wessex Autistic Society's fees! IEven if I had a job it's out of my price range! It's extortion!

post removed due to offensive comments ..........suze with her mod hat firmly on !

My MP (a Tory, what a surprise) even suggests because I can't get any help because there's nothing actually wrong with me! WTF? But organisations like employers all say, you're fucked up in the head, ######, go get some help you mental. But there is no help that exists!

Mental health say, go away, you don't have a mental illness (which I don't, true), go away, nothing wrong with you, but the learning disability/learning difficulty services say, you don't have a learning problem, go to mental illness. Wessex Autistic Society don't care about Aspergers sufferers. They also want like 30 quid an hour for their services, how am I meant to afford that!?!

OK, sure, I wasn't trying to start a conflict anyway.

I am abandoned that's it exactly, THANK YOU for understanding I am abandoned. These people immediately reject when you mention Aspergers AND they all tell you to go to the other organisations, even the ones that have just told you to go to them, nothing to do with us, go away, etc. The look of disgust these people have for people with Aspergers is incredible, even the "autistic society" charities are exactly like that. Wessex Autistic Society is a sham!

I am NOT aggressive I just don't airbrush out all harsh realities and that offends the non-'aspies' (parents, carers etc); some people NEED some support that is reality, I am in that group. There is no equality of opportunity for 'aspies' and 'aspies' have something wrong with them, it's NOT a condition which is fictional or imagined or feigned.

Some people cannot sort their own problems. Someone who has diabetes for example, needs insulin. It doesn't mean that they are "lazy" etc and "need determination" because they need to inject insulin, it means there is something medically wrong with them. The non-'aspires' do not emphasise with or understand that.