smallworld Report post Posted November 19, 2006 http://observer.guardian.co.uk/politics/st...rticle_continue There's one particular paragraph, the one beginning 'For example, a child with recognised behavioural problems....' that sums up that fright wac Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bullet Report post Posted November 19, 2006 It is rather worrying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucas Report post Posted November 20, 2006 And interesting. Most interesting was the use of a poll where the most popular idea was that parenting was to blame for everything. There's something called 'the abc fallacy' and it goes something like this: A causes B, B causes C, so therefore the cause of C must be A. It seems pretty convincing, at least if it's the only point of view being listened to and is the most popular view. The problems become obvious when a spanner is thrown in it: what if X can also cause C and C in itself can cause other things in itself such as A and B? You'd never know if you had only seen C caused by B which was caused by A. My brain hurts now, who would have thought the alphabet could get so complicated. It's likely a lot of good parents will be demeaned, dispirited and humiliated with compulsary classes that don't do a lot of good at all and it's not like the state has a fantastic track record on looking after kids or giving good parenting advice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarerQuie Report post Posted November 20, 2006 As it is,I think that a lot of parents seeking an ASD assessment for their children are having to run the gamut of parenting courses.xx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
claire33 Report post Posted November 20, 2006 Hi all Yes definately don't i know it waiting for a date coming through (Implement behavioural stratergies) Do they not think i havent already tried? its not as black and white as it seems!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmuir Report post Posted November 20, 2006 If only everything could be so black and white. I know that when I was seeking a diagnosis for my son, my parenting skills (or lack of!) were questioned. It's not a nice feeling and leaves you feeling useless. Admittedly, I can understand why parents are scrutinised, although there are ways of doing things without pointing the finger. I do think that when you have a badly behaved child that it's understandable why people automatically think 'oh, useless parent!'. It's not nice! I only wish that I'd be given some guidance (which I haven't) how to deal with my 5 year old AS son, whose behaviour gives great cause for concern (can be violent, aggressive, etc). I do think my life would been made easier if I were given parenting skills lessons by an expert who is experienced in dealing with ASD children - but, not by someone who deals with just badly behaved kids. Caroline. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canopus Report post Posted November 20, 2006 I do think my life would been made easier if I were given parenting skills lessons by an expert who is experienced in dealing with ASD children - but, not by someone who deals with just badly behaved kids. Exactly. My EP specialised in dealing with badly behaved kids and misdiagnosed my condition as EBD. I ended up at an EBD school which used tactics possibly appropriate for badly behaved NT kids but not ASD kids. People knowledgeable about ASD are like gold dust. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JenRose Report post Posted November 20, 2006 We were told to take part in a parenting class earlier this year. We refused. We told the NHS that we knew our sons problems were caused by his ASD and NOT down to our parenting. Then we found a wonderful Consultant Child psychologist (private practice) and we have never looked back. Its true what an earlier poster said that experts are like gold dust, ours is and we intend to hang on to him!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynyona Report post Posted November 20, 2006 Before we had a dx for kieran we went to something called the family unit,and this awful woman sat there and implied that it was my fault that kieran had the problems he had because i didnt push him enough.She suggested lots of things that kiearan agreed to which i knew he didnt really ,i know him,in hindsight i should have said to her when we leave here watch him out of the window,he got straight in to meltdown mode.stupid woman. lynn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dooday24 Report post Posted November 20, 2006 i was told if i didnt go on the parenting course they wouldnt refer me to camhs so i did a day a week 4 16 weeks it was useless when it came into practice with reece. i still havnt seen anyone from camhs and i did it over a yr ago., Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites