through variants we live on

hi andrew i love your circular arguing, and cutting your self off from rambling, it could be like listening to me! , believe it or not, it is possible to ask every question and interlink every answer, to understand our society (and more) and our place in it in context. interesting what you were (both) saying about authority, i've never been one for other peoples rules, but also understand knocking down the ugly pillar that holds up the roof isn't a good idea either. and Tally if your still checking this thread, i love your sig "EVERYTHING must be STRAIGHT or else the world will EXPLODE. Those who do not believe in the Law of Straightness will not BE SAVED"

Hi, i can really empathize with that (been in a similar thought process), but ultimately the answer is better than the thought process, so get the answer. so your setup right, thinking back i think i was "referred" by a psychologist, i think i over looked it in my series of events because to me towards the end i was telling everyone what i needed to happen. ie, went to my doctors with all the info not knowing who can diagnose AS to talk to him about getting sent on to someone else to look in to it, so he referred me on to a psychologist for (which i didn't know) "anxiety/stress". the first appointment was very confusing, me with all my info and her trying to get all CBT about me, but in the end i steered the time to look at how i felt i functioned and how i saw the world and how that connected with AS. she was very good and not knowing much about it herself found out about how she could help in the time we had, also finding out about the ADRC by the end of are fixed 10 week course referring me back to the doctor for referral to the ADRC. she was really good, in the past i had seen another psychologist who labeled to a narcissist with borderline personality disorder,.. which really hurt, mainly because the stuff i think doesn't connect with an ego (i don't think i have an ego like "normal" people) so although i enjoy thinking i'm not narcissistic!..... i guess the moral of the story is even if you don't get where you need to be at first that doesn't mean that’s the end, and also most people don't know much about AS and you really do need to know your stuff and try a get the situation where it needs to be. (sorry i left that bit out before) .. i did it all by my self, as i figured i would use my wife to compensate for me, so in a way by going by myself and being me, how ever embarrassing and uncomfortable it is those are the things the people your seeing need to see as that is AS. thanks for your final words, i do actually keep it to myself, as awareness can lead behavior, i like to see myself a normal with areas of intensity.

hi molly, sounds like a good idea, knowing your self can make you more comfortable in your self. adam.

hi, i was also diagnosed dyslexic now have a primary diagnosis of Aspergers, welcome

Hi, money yes, computers yes, gadgets yes, but apple! good to have you here. adam aka Variant.

Hi, the ADRC is a unit set up for diagnosing adults on the autistic spectrum, mainly HFA/AS i think, i found it as good as it could be up there, welcoming and reassuring, i went up for 2 days in all ~10:00-3:00, about 2 weeks apart. i think i had done an AQ test and a sensory one too, i also had a copy of the diagnostic criteria for AS, had my history + present functioning/day to day living, all notes and copies with me so me and my doctor could look through it together. i think it was possibly about 1 to 2 months for funding and about 2 weeks to a month to get my appointment at the ADRC. what now,. the ADRC officially diagnose you and compose a file for you with your requirements, eg. environmental, sensory, social. for work ect. really it formalizes the issues we go through, and protects you under the discrimination act as AS is a recognized condition. I’ve never been one for labeling myself to use as a tool to gain attention, but it became very important to me to draw a line under the doubt and constant questioning of myself so I could move forwards, it’s nice to know I have some protection too. There isn’t any cure (as I’m sure you know), I believe there’s a type of cognitive behavioral therapy focusing on solution based problem solving that can help overcome some problems. sometimes just knowing you and what you need relieves the pressure. adam, aka Variant.

that does sound very positive ..

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hi pete, lol, yeah wasn't trying to be mysterious forgot to sign, although "Variant" seems strangely fitting! i hope i can still talk openly with you,. you read my other post about me, so you know i've spent the last 15 years analyzing people, a particular interest is perception leaked through speech/text. ie. you (not YOU, but a person) can't say anything with out leaking their perceptual state. when i read through your posts i see where you are in your head, and can see the way out for you. so if you look ahead, you get them labeled AS you get you labeled CADD, you slap you dad and brother in the face with the realization of the misconnection (but i feel you think it's them being wrong), that in it self wouldn't have put the work in to maneuver you in you head into the right place. the point being, after all the battles and more time has gone bogged down in it still (is that what you what more of the same place) you'll then end up at the place i'm pointing to up there, with you having to get to a place you can transcend your past and starting to LOOK FORWARD not back. as i understand it autistic people are in a minority and AS even lower, i think you'll find you could (would have a chance to) connect with about 997.5 people in 1000, where your brother/dad would have the chance of 2-3 people in a 1000, rather than spending more time attributing blame, wanting penance, dump all that, spend that time starting to make those connections with the 99.7% of people, build the NT support structure, it is harder than pointing the finger, but the end result will be far better and exactly what you need.

hi, pete i have AS, so from what you've said i'm not sure if you'd like how i process data and make points, but from the work i've done in myself, you already have all you need inside you to fix yourself and be complete without labeling your brother and dad, you really do people (all) are not perfect, everyone is flawed, even people close to us, eg. my mum wasn't cuddly, i don't feel bad for a flaw she couldn't overcome (or didn’t even know she had), can i cuddle my kids, yes, completeness through transcending an issue, a parent seen in context. (did i get to out there) ..

Hi, philipo, wow, this is my first attempt to connect with people like me, i have been a member of other forums (pc related), but normally get outcast from the main group for the things i say (or see interest in) not connecting with the group, but i can really connect with what your saying, thanks. Hi, Tally, thanks, interesting what you were saying about friend groups, i'd say your right from what I have seen,. i think it's the dynamics of "normal" peoples relationships that i really still have a problem with though, to me observing it looks (for what of a better description) like a social orgy, people spending great effort maintaining an ego and the ego of people around them in the social ether with no tangible output for the effort, boggles the mind.

Hi, spent about the last 15 years of my life analyzing me and people to try and work out what was going on with everything, (luckily i love to look at everything and analyze everything) picked up allot of knowledge over that time, and this year a diagnosis of AS,... luckily all the hard work i put in has left me in a good place in myself, understanding "normal" people and me in context, I can really feel peoples feelings but still haven't got a clue what to do with them,.. don’t have a large friend group, or like meeting people (but don’t feel bad about that), still don’t properly understand some aspects of people and my interaction with them but know how to mitigate these issues. could ramble on, but anyway Hi. adam

Hi Hortus, i'm 33, in Hampshire too, and just got a diagnoses for AS, from the ADRC in Southampton, you would need to get funding through your GP (unless your loaded) think it cost thousands. I had done allot of research, and completed all the tests i could to take along with me to my GP to add weight to my case (i don't think he would want to ok heavy funding with out feeling confident) ADRC southampton Unity 12 9-19 Rose Road Southampton SO14 6TE