Can an employee be sacked for this?

[Canopus]

CRB checks only go back as far as someone's 16th birthday. Can a company sack an employee because of a serious crime they committed under the age of 16 that was found out about from an old newspaper article covering the event?

[baranigirl]

I would have thought yes if they were asked about convictions on their application and lied iyswim, depends on the nature of the job and type of crime committed too

 

There isn't a lower age on CRB checks either as I have had them done for 14yr old helpers at my club

[justine1]

I would have thought yes if they were asked about convictions on their application and lied iyswim, depends on the nature of the job and type of crime committed too

 

There isn't a lower age on CRB checks either as I have had them done for 14yr old helpers at my club

I agree.You usually have to declare criminal convictions on the application or at an interview.No matter the crime,it is being dis honest and not many employers like dishonesty.I know someone who lost their job for not declaring something that happened when they were 13.

[Tally]

Lying on application is generally a sackable offence, yes. It brings into doubt all the other things they said on the application and the all-round trustworthiness of the employee. It's not really to do with the nature of the job or the offence now that the employer knows he lied about it on application.

[call me jaded]

You can go to prison for lying on an application form. There was a case about a girl lying to say she had A levels to work as an administrator for the NHS and she got sent to prison for 6 months, I believe.

[Canopus]

You can go to prison for lying on an application form. There was a case about a girl lying to say she had A levels to work as an administrator for the NHS and she got sent to prison for 6 months, I believe.

 

That was a world first. The same individual happened to have used a forged letter signed in the name of her boyfriend and also a forged navy discharge certificate which may have been the real motive for issuing the prosecution rather than the lack of A Levels.

[call me jaded]

It was the A levels that got her caught out. Why did you ask if you knew this already?

[fieldmouse]

CRB checks only go back as far as someone's 16th birthday. Can a company sack an employee because of a serious crime they committed under the age of 16 that was found out about from an old newspaper article covering the event?

 

Probably. Some lady she got the sack after 13 years service just cos she was seen to eat part of a nut that went into a cake or something. On hygienic grounds they sad. Pathetic.

[puffin]

Probably. Some lady she got the sack after 13 years service just cos she was seen to eat part of a nut that went into a cake or something. On hygienic grounds they sad. Pathetic.

 

Eating while in a food factory is usually strictly forbidden and an instantly sackable offense

 

While it's only one nut - she is likely to have had saliva on her gloves/hands and then went on to touch the food she was preparing so her saliva/germs ended up in someones food

 

- also what happened to the other part of the nut - did she bite it and put it back?? - yuk

[Canopus]

It was the A levels that got her caught out. Why did you ask if you knew this already?

 

I have discussed the case with a lawyer who says that there is more to this than what's written in the press and it raises several questions. The lawyer also thinks that from the information available that the prosecution was more likely to have resulted from the forged navy discharge certificate rather than the lack of A Levels, although scraps of information from elsewhere raises the possibility that the individual may have been a victim of a witch hunt.

 

[Aeolienne]

CRB checks only go back as far as someone's 16th birthday. Can a company sack an employee because of a serious crime they committed under the age of 16 that was found out about from an old newspaper article covering the event?

Aren't convictions usually considered "spent" after five years?

[AspieMe]

Aren't convictions usually considered "spent" after five years?

Not for CRB's (and enhanced security checks for that matter). They are exempt from the rehabilitation of criminals act.

 

I had a police caution at 13 (I know this isn't the same as a "serious crime"), and despite the fact it is unlikely to turn up, I'd rather put it on the form and have an embarrassing 2 min conversation about something silly I did over 20 years ago than have a conversation with my manager about why I am being given 5 minutes to clear my desk and being escorted off the premises. We all do silly things when we are young and quite often it is enough to say we were children and have grown up a lot since then.

Edited February 1, 2012 by AspieMe