hi

[anniechipmunk]

hi ive got a 15 year old hes 16 on monday..hes at high school on a school action ..and i.e.p. plan..

he was cought self harming 3 weeks ago..after spending a few days away..hes been an upset young man for a while hes being constantly bullied at school for being DIFFERENT....

ummm we took him to our gp and shes suggested that hes got a.d.d. or adhd ..we went to camhs and theyve said its a very long wait to do anything for him and they suggesed that we go privately to get a diagnosis..so weve been to see a psychotherapist.she was very good she read what i had which were all of my sons previous school reports..who have always said that hes got terrible handwriting and that hes always fidgeting and wont focus and cant concentrate in class..we had him checked whilst in primary school for dyspraxia...by a woman who saw him for 15 mins then left without saying whether he did or didnt have this condition...so we were left in limbo..so now he still has all of the symptoms for dyspraxia..and after speaking to the pstch shes also said shes 99% sure he has that along with ocd..as he does alot of thing that are a ritual for him. but were still no further forwards...does anyone have any ideas ...he knows hes different....he cries often so we think hes depressed so weve put him on calms..to see if it helps and also he sleep walks arund 4 times a night..so hes getting less sleep...

[smiley1590]

i have dyspraxia found out in childhood the woman that saw your son to for 15 minutes i would ask GP about what the outcome result of seeing this lady was whether you have an official diagnosis of dyspraxia or not! but doubt 15 minutes leaves you long enough to assess and diagnose anyone to be honest!i know waiting lists and awfully long winded process/system

 

has an ASD been mentioned? do you feel that ADHD/ADD fit your son? does behaviours fit? as lack of concentration /attention could just be dyspraxia i fit all of dyspraxia but can overlap with so many other related spectrum conditions! like OCD depression etc

 

i have been on and off self harmer since my early teens and went to docs where he referred me general counsellor she wasn't 'happy' and felt like 'something else' was there but didn't know what so again i was referred to her work colleagues on different team complex difficulties clinic where i was assessed and officially diagnosed with A.S along with social anxiety disorder and secondary depression!)

 

how long would you say your son been depressed for? weeks months or more years? has it been gradual progression with depression or something come on all of sudden quick development of feeling depressed? who caught your son self harming 3 weeks ago? what kind of self-harm was it? did g.p discuss medication for sleep or depression? as this may make him feel 'brighter' in himself 'better' more balanced stable to face things everyday! his sleep maybe worse due to depression as can really impact sleep pattern /cycle even more than normally does anyway!

 

did you tell G.P about self -harming behaviour and crying? has he expressed any depressive thoughts or suicidal ones to yourselves? sounds like he really struggling to manage/cope with life!

 

XKLX

[anniechipmunk]

hi my doc who my son saw originally 3 weeks ago said he had the symptoms of add..and ocd. so i thought "ok" well lets see where we go from here... then she asked about his self harming..well he did it at my bro in laws house he ate a toilet block..and it made hm so sick then actually made himself sick by putting his fingers down his throat..his depression has been slowly developing over the last few months.but is getting worse.he hasnt had any suicidal thoughts.hes struggling to cope with school as he knows hes "different"...at school hes constantly bullied because of his stammer..and he says and does things that are out of the ordinary..i think he does have symptoms of add..but not adhd as hes not hyper in anyway he just wants to do nothing..

the first gp said if he didnt lift in mood by time he has his depression review(which weve just had) that she would put him on meds..but heres where the sting comes in.this doc is now on maternity leave...so we saw another doc whos stated that weve now got to wait for camhs to get involved..and she wouldnt give him anything to help him sleep as hes always slept walked since 5 years old but never this bad...so im thinking of getting him some calms or quiet life as this helps me with my pms! heres his symptoms...see what you guys think!

 

immature behavoiur

extremes of emotions

lack of awareness danger

poor exercise tolerance(never done pe at school)

a loner no friends..

very poor handwriting(since he first could write)

poor development skills loses things

poor short temr memory

dont know left from right

obsessive behaviour

cant catch a ball

he cant complete homework tasks forgets names.

compulsive lying.

argumentative

now the private psych said he needs a multi disciplinary assessment?

 

you see why i think its dyspraxia...

[smiley1590]

heya again!

 

did you ask why your son swallowed a toilet block and then stuck his fingers down his throat made himself sick? is this first time he ever done something this serious and harmful/dangerous before? did he have to seek medical advice e.g. hospital? what did you do following that situation? has your son explain why he did it? sounds like may be connected/linked closely with his depression

 

have you discussed an action plan with school concerning the bullying and negative impact his having on your son's life mental /emotional well-being being deeply affected? has your son got an IEP at all?

 

so your son so far hasn't been officially assessed or diagnosed with anything at the moment am i right in that?! are you seeing any sucess in your son's sleep pattern/cycle with him taking kalms? i tried them for awhile as best friend suggested them to me but didn't go anything for me! your son not wanting to do 'anything' will be his depression making him this way

 

i would go back to doctors and demand to see another doctor and say it getting worse out of control situation and urgent need something being done now! asap! before more harm danger comes round corner which could be soon if not stepped on! i would explain that maternity doc suggested meds for both his sleeping/depression? if they give him medication for depression this may sort/control even his sleeping out a bit better as some take at night make feel drowsy help you drift off to sleep!

 

i was bullied for years so can empathise/sympathise with what your son going through it makes feel trapped,miserable SO ALONE scared etc

 

i would say some of list overlaps with eachother could be either ASD or dyspraxia but i would say combination of the two conditions as so similar! co-morbid

 

XKLX

[anniechipmunk]

hi i did ask him and he said he wasnt thinking...it was a definate cry for help..he hasnt been diagnosed..i dont know how long that will take...but im pushing our services all of the time ..i ring almost everyday but im going to see another therapist privately to see if i can get a quicker diagnosis done for him.its the bullying thats hurting me ..knowing im having to send him in for his 7 hours of mental torture or i will be fined by the lovely welfare officers..who in my book dont give two hoots..after the self harm we sent for our gp..she talked us through why he did it as ghe told her everything..i agree with you about asd and dys..i think its a combination of the two now i just have to get him sorted..its his 16th bday tomorrow and were taking him out for a meal..trying to make him smile as much as we can...bless him ..breaks my heart..

[lilnicki]

From the list that you wrote i'd say Aspergers is ONE of his "issues".

[anniechipmunk]

to be honest..ive read so much info on so many of these conditions i dont know where to start! they all sort of intermingle with each other..were still waiting on the school to send in the connors forms to camhs..im still getting onto them daily..im hoping that we will hear something very soon.