shamu Report post Posted June 22, 2008 I guess I "ought" to be glad that at the grand old age of four and a half DS can FINALLY undress himself BUT he's taken to doing it at totally inappropriate times So he'll be on his trampoline and suddenly fling off his shorts and nappy and this morning we found him fully undressed in bed in a nice wet patch . Of course, he'll rarely undress when ASKED to Any ideas how to tackle this one? He's non verbal although understands basic stuff, PECS don't work and he's not interested in any stories, let alone social stories. I wondered about using a nappy pin on his PJs but knowing him he'll just keep pulling until they rip. At one point nursery suggested we got some dungarees when he was playing with his nappy a lot but I don't think that's an option in the middle of summer (plus it will make nappy changing a huge pain....) Advice oh wise ones????!!! Shamu Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sooze2 Report post Posted June 22, 2008 Ive heard of some people wrapping duck tape around the top of the nappy to stop them taking it off at night - may be worth a try. DS is 8.5 and still runs around the garden in his pants and never gets dressed unless we are going out so I have no real advise only sympathy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enid Report post Posted June 22, 2008 Think the dungarees may be the only option! cant think of anything else! <'> <'> Enid Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JsMum Report post Posted June 22, 2008 I guess I "ought" to be glad that at the grand old age of four and a half DS can FINALLY undress himself BUT he's taken to doing it at totally inappropriate times So he'll be on his trampoline and suddenly fling off his shorts and nappy and this morning we found him fully undressed in bed in a nice wet patch . Of course, he'll rarely undress when ASKED to Any ideas how to tackle this one? He's non verbal although understands basic stuff, PECS don't work and he's not interested in any stories, let alone social stories. I wondered about using a nappy pin on his PJs but knowing him he'll just keep pulling until they rip. At one point nursery suggested we got some dungarees when he was playing with his nappy a lot but I don't think that's an option in the middle of summer (plus it will make nappy changing a huge pain....) Advice oh wise ones????!!! Shamu I think in some way the dungerees are good idea, you can get dungaree shorts for your sons age for the summer, from your post it sounds very sensory to go all naked, its maybe due to restrictions in movements when dressed or the feeling of the nappy. I have to recommend a book called The out of syncs child, and the co book called the out of syncs child has fun, these are activities to help a child intregrate who have sensory intergration disorder and they have some great ideas that may help destract his removal of clothes. What about a sign, may be some sign language to say clothes on, if he undresses straight away dress him, and sign it, clothes on, and keep the communication short, my other idea was to take photos of him dressed and show him clothes on, reinforcing that Nappy and clothes are to stay on his body, a social story may help, and dressing into each garment addressed. J did go throw taking all his clothes off except his boxer shorts and run around, so what I did for him was give him a space and a time to let him do this at home in his own privacey. JsMum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shamu Report post Posted June 22, 2008 Thanks for the suggestions so far! We've had an awful night - he managed to poo on the floor around 9pm (although thankfully not on the bed like after lunch!!!!) and we've just rechecked him and he was nekkid again Oh joy... Off to search for some dungarees I think but not sure what I can use at night - may have to go back to his huge reusable nappies as he can't undo them/slip them over his hips plus there's the wrap AND the nappy! Thanks Shamu Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JsMum Report post Posted June 23, 2008 Thanks for the suggestions so far! We've had an awful night - he managed to poo on the floor around 9pm (although thankfully not on the bed like after lunch!!!!) and we've just rechecked him and he was nekkid again Oh joy... Off to search for some dungarees I think but not sure what I can use at night - may have to go back to his huge reusable nappies as he can't undo them/slip them over his hips plus there's the wrap AND the nappy! Thanks Shamu Hi just reread your first post about not interested in social stories, so sorry there for suggesting it in my post, but still I would look at a more personalised and individualised social story with making your own using photos of him dressed. I think that with the level of amount of times he is taking his clothes off and how its requiring regular checks to ensure he is dressed or with a nappy I would be inclined to seek further support from your Peadatrition to look into OT or similair to seek further information on specialist clothing to ensure a secure fit especailly in the evening/night. It must be difficult with needing to change him regualar, my only other thought could it be he is ready to start potty training and he doesnt like to have a nappy on due to the sensation and weather having potties available incase he would be inclined to use these rather than on the floor as he is clearly not wanting to do this in his nappy and as he is unable to tell you he is doing it his own way. JsMum Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jo jones Report post Posted June 23, 2008 we have the naked problem also due to sensory probs,,we were in millets last year and blaine saw a nice tent up on display in the shop,,he went to investigate and few mins later came out completely naked ha ha staff were wetting themselves,,,,,,,,he was redressed very quickly to his dismay!!!!!! when he was in nappies he would constantly take them off,,he was out of nappies by 2 year old,,we used to have to put one on when he was asleep but if he woke it would be off,,,he has never wet the bed either but has problems with water and being wet in general so dunno if this is why,,at home he is naked constantly,,and through constant rewarding and so on he will now keep clothes on if we go out as we explain that we will have to go home if he decides to strip off,,, jo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sooze2 Report post Posted June 23, 2008 Its interesting what jo jones says about being out of nappies at 2. My "naked" son hated being wet and dirty, as soon as he poo'ed I had to change him or he would take the nappy off, A long time before he was 2 I used to sit him on the loo to poo because he hated doing it in his nappy so much. I started potty training propper 2 months after he was 2, he spent a week over Christmas wearing only a top and he had no accidents and was clean and dry night and day ever since! That was all his doing - nothing to do with me - he just couldn't wait to get rid of the nappies. My younger twins were a nightmare to train or so I thought but now I actually think they were just average toddlers and he was unusal due to sensory issues. So do you all think the reason he hates clothes is all down to sensory issues? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jo jones Report post Posted June 23, 2008 maybe,,cos it wasnt easy with my eldest i remember it being a nitemare,,so i dunno but as soon as blaine knew what the tags were for on nappies he would take them off,,he hated them,,saying that though he would only use a potty as he has a fear of toilets,if there is bloo in the water he wont use it???and also the blocks that u put on the rim ,he will take them off dont know why????? he is not so bad now he used to think that he would fall down the toilet aswell so we bought a toilet seat for him,, as for the clothing maybe it is due to sensory probs,,he is tactile defensive and he is either fully naked or will only wear clothes on top half!!! i find pants and socks everywhere around the house,,oh and his preferred choice of clothing is my summer dresses ha ha he loves it ,,this was a real problem for us last year cos he would empty my wardrobe and wear my clothing all the time,,but i have now got it down to one item!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! have a look on u tube an type in blaine in take this,,u will see what i mean ha ha he is soooooo adorable,,,,,,,,jo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shamu Report post Posted June 23, 2008 I did wonder about him being ready to toilet train but I'm almost 100% certain it would be a disaster (again ) as he refuses to sit on the toilet/potty. I think it is all sensory issues about being naked - he'll take his trousers/shorts and nappy off even when we've just put a new one on (so it's not wet nor is he about to wee iyswim) and he likes to be able to have a wee "play" if you get my drift! I think there have been a couple of times when he has wet through his nappy and soaked his clothes and not even shown awareness so I don't think he's ready to toilet train/time even if he didn't have the aversion. I've just redressed him three times so have resorted to a reusable cloth nappy and wrap - he can't get them off even if he tries! But it doesn't actually solve the underlying issue.... I may try some simple visual stories with him but to be honest it's impossible to get him to sit still and listen. I may just get a laminated photo of him dressed to show him when he tries to undress. Thanks and it's nice to know there are others who have similar experiences (even if it isn't nice)! Shamu Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JsMum Report post Posted June 23, 2008 I did wonder about him being ready to toilet train but I'm almost 100% certain it would be a disaster (again ) as he refuses to sit on the toilet/potty. I think it is all sensory issues about being naked - he'll take his trousers/shorts and nappy off even when we've just put a new one on (so it's not wet nor is he about to wee iyswim) and he likes to be able to have a wee "play" if you get my drift! I think there have been a couple of times when he has wet through his nappy and soaked his clothes and not even shown awareness so I don't think he's ready to toilet train/time even if he didn't have the aversion. I've just redressed him three times so have resorted to a reusable cloth nappy and wrap - he can't get them off even if he tries! But it doesn't actually solve the underlying issue.... I may try some simple visual stories with him but to be honest it's impossible to get him to sit still and listen. I may just get a laminated photo of him dressed to show him when he tries to undress. Thanks and it's nice to know there are others who have similar experiences (even if it isn't nice)! Shamu How often in the day would you say he is taking his clothes off, and how soon afterwards is he dressed again to then take them off again. With the social stories I have placed key issues I want J to take notice of and placed them on his wall, at home, so they are visual all the time. I understand that he takes his nappy off even when dry but just wondered that was all, J was very early to train because he couldnt stand the wetness agaisnt his skin, he started wearing underpants over his nappy and then over a week he was dry in underpants, again like others here he did this all himself, it amazed me to be honest. I would talk to your peadatrition as he may be able to refer you to spersific specialist who could give you some more advice as Im really cant think of anything more to help. It must be very waring and tiring, using a lot of your time to get him out the house. Let us know how you get on. JsMum Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zosmum Report post Posted June 23, 2008 Z was clean and dry through the day at around 3 but not at night til around 6. She would also strip off throught the night so I used to put her to bed naked lying on top of a thin fleece over a plastic sheet. Cos the fleece was only thin it was easy to wash and dry. I knew that I'd be washing everyday and I think cos I was expecting the worst every morning some mornings came as a plesent surprise Have you tried the potties that play music when they're used? might be worth a try Don't know if any of this will help Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dooday24 Report post Posted June 24, 2008 hi reece wets alot at nite and will not wear anything clothes wise or pullups to bed we see a incontinence nurse and she suggested some pjs they do that do up the bac hav never tried them but they mite b an idea goodluck love donnaxxxx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
forbsay Report post Posted June 25, 2008 Hello You can get all in one vests with poppers in between the legs. We used on M when he was in nappies. We got him out of nappies at 5.5 years old It did the job. Forbsay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sooze2 Report post Posted June 25, 2008 Maybe putting a sleepsuit on backwards, poppers going down the back? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shamu Report post Posted July 6, 2008 (edited) Just a sort of update in that things are going from bad to worse.... Haven't managed to get my hand on any poppered vests/dungarees/sleepsuits but they're on their way. We tried going back to resusables but he's worked out how to wriggle out of them and he even managed to get out of his pyjamas tonight which were pinned together with old fashioned nappy pins!!!! Talk about determined.... He's undressing anywhere and everywhere (nursery, Tesco, music therapy etc etc etc) and it's getting very wearing. BUT he has learnt to put his shorts on himself so there is at least one plus side to this constant redressing!!!!!! I may drop a line to his paed but he's going to just shrug and his OT hasn't talked to me for four months so I can't imagine much help there. We're a bit worn out by it, and constantly on edge (we've had poo and wee everywhere - 5 changes of bedding since Friday, the rug has been washed, the patio is cleaner than the day it was laid etc etc etc). My poor DH is dreading me going away this week as he's got them on his own for 2 nights....... Shamu Edited July 6, 2008 by shamu Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nickhelli Report post Posted October 4, 2008 (edited) Have a search on Google for KC sleepsuits. My Son uses them at night, we wouldn't be able to cope without them. Edited October 4, 2008 by nickhelli Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
