And things that go 'bump' in the night ?

[Sa Skimrande]

On a Halloween theme what do others thing about ' the unexplained', in terms of ghostly happenings, has anyone experienced anything their sense of logic could not reason ?

 

I have and I was a totally skeptic until it happened, the sense of a fire in a B&B I was staying in on Bodmin Moor, the legendary Jamaica inn, I actually smelled wood smoke and felt the heat and noise all around as if loads of people were clamouring to get out it woke me up at about 3am then it stopped. The same occurrence had been reported by previous patrons of the same room, but in the eighteenth century the room I was in the position of a room that was destroyed by fire with loss of life. Then that same weekend finding a book in a charity shop on Cornwall's mysteries where the photo on the back cover was the room i was staying in.

 

I have also experienced photographic oddities with my camera in the area of megalithic monuments and a dizzy sick feeling inside West Kennet Long Barrow, so bad I had to get out fast.

 

Down here in the South West megalithic monuments and weird happenings are abound where the Penwith Peninsula is particularly odd with a sort of static feeling in the air around the megaliths, there is enough of them, but an extremely bad feeling of foreboding that actually made me turn around and walk away at a monument called Carn Gluze near St Just and I had travelled all the way down there especially to see it and photograph it in infra red.

 

Although I live down here now, I no longer feel the need to go near the megaliths, part of it is fear, because they can inspire a certain kind of madness, but maybe I need to as when I am around these things I become very creative and I seem to have lost my muse these last few years.

 

Anyone else, or are others all logic ?

[darkshine]

I find the split between logic and the unexplainable hard to bridge, and in some ways I am disinclined to do so for part of me likes the fact that some things don't have an explanation, because as someone who seeks explanations for so many things in life I feel that certain areas are perfectly acceptable to be "unexplained" just to even things out a bit.

 

I have experienced minor things that my sense of logic cannot account for.

Edited October 31, 2012 by darkshine

[karmadestiny]

I've heard alot of stories growing up about people who have seen things that couldn't be explained...Intrigued as I was, I was also scared of coming face to face with something frightening that I couldn't deal with...I've always been very sensitive to energies around me, the negative ones especially...my sisters call me the 'human sponge' as I literally soak up the energies... Being depressed for years created this heavy, dense energy field around me and I felt like I was a magnet for similar energies...About 7 years ago, things were really bad for me and my life was in constant dispair...while trying to get to sleep one night, I suddenly felt a surge of this really dark, dense energy building up like a whirlwind just over me...It became stronger and stronger, I felt fully awake yet and still in the lying position on my side...the noise was like a plane overhead, right above me...suddenly the strength of the wind pulled me up in the air and I was clambering on to hold myself down...It was so terrifying and all I could do was to pray for God to help me...It lasted for what must have been a good 5 mins or so but felt like eternity...As suddenly as it began it stopped and there was sudden peace all around me...My heart was beating so fast and so hard...I couldn't make out if this really took place or somehow I did fall asleep and had some sort of out of body experience...Actually my first experience happened a couple of years before this one...were again I was trying to fall of to sleep, my husband was downstairs still watching T.v...(this one still gives me the shivers thinking about it)...I smelled a strong fragrance like someone wearing 3/4 different aftershaves in one...it was very strong and I wondered were it was coming from...This time I know I was awake...I heard someone come in the room, change and lock the door...naturally I would have thought it was my husband but something just didn't feel right as my husband usually came up quite late...and I couldn't understand why he would put so much aftershave on at night...he got into bed beside me and I had my eyes open, the light was switched off so I couldn't see anything...I waited and as usual he placed his arm around my waist...I was trying so hard to keep calm and not let him know I was scared, but I remained calm...I was too scared to turn around and waited to see what would happen...there was no noise of him breathing...for a good while I lay there not knowing what to do...in the end I just prayed ot God to keep me safe and somehow just fell of to sleep...in the morning I asked my husband about what time he came up and why he had the need to wear so much aftershave, he turned around and said tha he had as usual come up pretty late at night and that he hadn't used any after shave that night...When i told him about what I experienced he just laughed at me not believing me...Same thing happened the second night...I could feel this thick heavy energy in my bedroom, i was so scared of going into my bedroom...my husband wasn't very sympthetic and just made fun of me when I was literally freaking out...Its not something you tell people so I kept it to myself for a couple of years...though there were no more sharing of the bed scenes:)p...I could still feel something was there watching me...I know i didn't dream as I adopted my son and I kept his crib in my room near me and when he was around 6/7 months he was so frightened he wouldn't sleep...each night at 1pm he would suddenly shreak out, try as I could he wouldn't settle...he kept looking around the room,crying really badly... I knew he could sense whatever it was in the room...for 6 months my son and I slept downstairs on the floor...during this time he settled down and my back was killing me from sleeping on the floor and i decided to give it another go and see if things have changed...I decided to bless the room and do some reading to purify the energies by lighting incense each evening...and he started to sleep through the night but off and on he would still look around...When he was around 3, he would run from his own room and want to sleep with me... it kinda started up again, he would wake up at 1pm as before screaming and looking around and saying he can see something with long teeth and red eyes...that was the last straw I was dealing with it but I didn't want my son to have to go through this experience and be so scared of his own shadow now... one evening I plucked up courage and stood in the room and I thought whatever this is I need to face it... I told him this was my house and he had no right to put us through the emotional turmoil it was putting us through...It had no permission to be in my room or anywere in my house...I asked it to leave in the name of God...

 

That was the end of it...I couldn't feel the negative energy anymore...In some ways I feel that when we're feeling deeply sad or depressed we omit this energy that attracts like energy and draws it to you...As scary as the experiences were this actually helped me to realise that my negative energy was actually having an affect on my young son...In order to keep him safe and whole I needed to sort my head out and my life...I now only feel gratitude towards that part of my life as it got me to look at my negative thinking process and turn things around for me, so it was a positive experience in the end...Logically speaking yes, our mind can play tricks but there are certain things that are beyond explanation...I hope I haven't scared anyone...we're living in the same house, i'm still sleeping in the same room, so alls well:) Happy Halloween;)p!!!

[Sa Skimrande]

I used to be very depressed and dark and so I guess that is why I went the goth route, but what I actually find about wearing black, is it exorcises negative thought.

 

But in a world of logic and scientific process many find it hard to believe in unexplained phenomena and I used to until it happened to me and a house we were staying in when we were first homeless was an ex student house with a bad reputation where to our knowledge all kinds of negative practices had been played out there including Ouja, but a home was a home, well somewhere to call home at least, much better than bed and breakfast that splits up families.

 

The house had things happening in it, noises and unexplained movement and I watched once, sitting on the throne staring at the bath on the other side of the room, a tin of deodorant on the corner of the bath moved as it it had been knocked by someone walking passed as it tipped then rattled around it's base before coming to a standstill. Like, what caused that, there is no draught and no one else is here plain odd.

 

Then it was mysterious growls being heard at night and the sound that someone as coming up the stairs along the hallway and trying our bedroom door knob, the second time that happened I was out of bed and swinging open the bedroom door to find nothing there.

 

Then a visitor from abroad was staying with us and she said she watched what she believed was me walking down the stairs, but was gob smacked when the figure disappeared through the wall.

 

Then there was a moving patch of cold in the place that seemed very sociable, for where we were all in the living room, it was playing musical chairs. The cold was about shoulder high and about two feet wide, a distinct something that we could not see, but when one touched it one got that feeling of coursing up the spine and hairs feeling like they are standing on end, which is the feeling I also get when an electrical storm is brewing.

 

So it's the house we thought, so it was off to the library to find out about this house we were staying in and we found it was the house was built and occupied by the local wealthy house builder and being of a Victorian age there was some suggestion that the builder dabbled in occult interests as was fashionable in the Victorian period.

 

And so I researched a lot then one day I got out an OS map and started drawing lines on it, lines that intersected exactly where the house was, lines that also intersected with ancient monuments, churches and old By ways and cross roads and I began to draw the conclusion that this wealthy house builder from the Victorian period hadn't just built his home anywhere, for he had built it with purpose in what Ley hunters call concentrations of energy. But from research nto this stuff we came across Sir Francis Dashwood who was also into esoterical stuff and West Wycombe was nearby where he had spent his money building monuments based on occult belief, so we went to take a look and impressive it is.

 

There was a cellar under the house but I could not find the entrance and believe me I looked and assumed it had been filled in or at least the entrance hidden.

 

Our cold patch in the house we lost one day after a weekend of living in an Iron Age Round House at the Peat Moors Museum in Somerset, where we all saw it in the early morning by the door a definitive head, shoulders and body but shortened as if it was standing on it's knees. The next day the custodian of the houses asked if we had enjoyed our night and did we experience anything, so we told him what we saw and he revealed the reconstructed house in which we had just spent the night is built on the exact site of a dwelling that was there two thousand years ago on an island in the marshes, the ancient Glastonbury Lake Village.

 

But we had teenagers in the house, particularly troubled teenagers and it is said teenagers can sometimes attract poltergeist activity.

 

But I have largely turned my mind off to weird stuff these passed few years, but an American witch I used to converse with taught me how images can be psychically transmitted to others whilst they are talking on internet messenger programs as this women said she is sending me an image through thought and she will email me the image she has sent. And so I got this distinct mental image of a black bird flying low over a grey stormy sea, but not only that but I heard the sea and felt the cold. The email revealed exactly what I had thought, but we no mention of sound and feeling, just the image. But then what is a computer if it is not a collection of minerals, metals and electro magnetism, with electro magnetism being the component particularly associated with psychic phenomena.

[Mike_GX101]

I've got a stone chimney stack which is covered in eerie-looking faces where the stones come together as if the people who built the house put them there deliberately as like an art centre-piece. Any way I had a particularly eerie sensation once when watching the TV - one of my pictures fell off the wall revealing a pair of big beady eyes set in the wall upon which the lounge went stone cold and I felt quite unsettled - and cold.

 

I don't believe in ghosts but this spooked me somewhat. I do wonder some times if there is a life form so tiny that it moves around in large colonies through atoms of reality like our radio waves do. Viruses weren't discovered until fairly recently and perhaps it is only a matter of time before we discover that life can be smaller still and that the ghostly apparitions some people see are in fact large swarms of such things unsettled, for example, by our increasing reliance on radio wave devices such as microwaves and mobiles. Perhaps the visual form they create with increasing recurrence is like a distress beacon we keep missing. I seem to remember the Replicators take on such forms in the TV series Stargate Atlantis.

 

Of course generally I don't believe in ghosts and think much of it is psychological but there are times when most of us experience something we cannot explain and when that happens one can only wonder and I think it's good to exercise the imagination some times. It is afterall imagination which sparked the discovery of many inventions where the science fiction concept came first and the real-life discovery came after; if no one had imagined it in the first place, a technology would not have been invented for it.

Edited November 2, 2012 by Mike_GX101

[darkshine]

And so I researched a lot then one day I got out an OS map and started drawing lines on it, lines that intersected exactly where the house was, lines that also intersected with ancient monuments, churches and old By ways and cross roads and I began to draw the conclusion that this wealthy house builder from the Victorian period hadn't just built his home anywhere, for he had built it with purpose in what Ley hunters call concentrations of energy. But from research nto this stuff we came across Sir Francis Dashwood who was also into esoterical stuff and West Wycombe was nearby where he had spent his money building monuments based on occult belief, so we went to take a look and impressive it is.

 

There was a cellar under the house but I could not find the entrance and believe me I looked and assumed it had been filled in or at least the entrance hidden.

 

When I was about 15 I was taking the mickey out of my nan who had told me about this train going through her bedroom, that night as I was laying in bed the sound of a train started filling my room and the whole thing rattled, I didn't see anything as I buried my head under the covers, wishing very hard that I hadn't laughed at my nan.

 

A year later I was using her loo, it was a council house and beside the main bathroom was an older lavatory, the type with the high tank and chain and as I left the main bathroom the toilet flushed in the other one - the door was open - nobody was in it.

 

Where I live now, there used to be footsteps in the loft, I'd lay in bed at night and could hear someone walking up there, it didn't really bother me as I had no sense of anything evil or angry, just the sound.

 

Then some time last year I was getting into the bath, I had undressed and walked over to the sink, it has a mirror above it, as I did so, someone threw cold water at the middle of my back, I checked the ceiling because it seemed a logical conclusion that possibly water could have fallen - the ceiling was dry, the water in the bath was hot. I saw no movement in the mirror.

 

When I go places I sometimes get senses of things, like there's a presence, I've felt good ones, bad ones, and indifferent ones that just feel of something but have no positive or negative energy,

 

The older I get, the less it happens, I don't see things but people in my family have.

 

Aren't there lines in the ground that are something to do with energies? I'm sure I heard that... are they ley lines (I don't know if that is the right word, but what you said about the house you describe jogged my memory of a program I saw once where these people were arguing about access to a piece of land and that argument was related to these lines.

 

 

But I have largely turned my mind off to weird stuff these passed few years, but an American witch I used to converse with taught me how images can be psychically transmitted to others whilst they are talking on internet messenger programs as this women said she is sending me an image through thought and she will email me the image she has sent. And so I got this distinct mental image of a black bird flying low over a grey stormy sea, but not only that but I heard the sea and felt the cold. The email revealed exactly what I had thought, but we no mention of sound and feeling, just the image. But then what is a computer if it is not a collection of minerals, metals and electro magnetism, with electro magnetism being the component particularly associated with psychic phenomena.

 

I haven't heard of that - only with people sitting in the same room... intriguing though because the world is full of energy, I like to try and keep an open mind.

Edited November 2, 2012 by darkshine

[Sa Skimrande]

Where I have a place to do my metalwork is an old seventeenth century smithy, the only one left of five in a village it being a general smithy as opposed to ones that were lost as they were specialist, wheel rims, carriage repair and a farrier oh and one turned into an internal combustion vehicle garage but has since gone. Now the blacksmith is a staunch Christian whom I am slightly wary of, not because he is not unfriendly, he's not, in fact he is very helpful, but there is something I cannot quite put my finger on, so I am guarded in what I say. But I have been there on my own and had the feeling I was not on my own and caught glimpses of movement and voices that turned out to be not there. And so it was last year after both of us being there we were chatting and he mentioned something out of the blue, that I needn't worry about the shadows in the smithy for they are there and because a blacksmith is largely a solitary job he has been there on his own for eleven years and noticed a lot, as the place is historic and on the site of one mentioned in the Domesday book, but the present one is a replacement for the older one that burned down- the fate of many a smithy.

 

But what was he thinking to come out with that and so I added a bit of logic where I said there is lots of folklore attached to smithies and blacksmiths, a lot I know and it was thought that this ancient profession contained a lot of 'magic' through the fact that it is mysterious even today in that many a person desires to learn it a craft in the dark in the dark, the dark being needed to recognise the colours needed for working hot metal and the heat treatments to obtain different properties. But it was though that with all ancient elements present and being used together magic is being generated.

 

When I was tidying the place last year I found a pentacle scratched into the back of the furnace hood, I mentioned it to the black smith and he said to leave it alone it is there for a reason as in the past pentacles were used by Christianity to ward off evil spirits, as it is an ancient symbol often even called the Key of Soloman, which is of importance to the Muslims as well through the five pillars of Islam and the device is also on the flag of Morocco and the Amish of the USA still use the pentacle for warding off evil, so it is not really a modern witchy symbol and those that attribute evil to the things really do not know much at all.

 

But yes for I have seen and felt it, there are things creeping about in and around that smithy and the sense is they are harmless, but they are only around when work is being done.

[Mike_GX101]

... intriguing though because the world is full of energy, I like to try and keep an open mind.

It is no coincidence that synonyms for energy include: dash, drive, fire, force, get-up-and-go, life, liveliness, spirit, vitality, zeal and zest.

 

Without energy there would be no life (consider how much food we need each day for example). Also without energy our electronics would not work. Without energy there would be no light, no stars, no supernova and no movement. Without energy the whole universe would be a still and lifeless place.

 

It is hard therefore not to consider there might be some connection in ourselves with the energy we use for our electronics and that which makes everything else in the universe happen. It's as if the whole universe is just one huge chain reaction and our own lives and DNA make-ups are just another part of that process thereby moving matter onto ever more complex chemistries until finally a big bang occurs once again and the process begins all over again.

[darkshine]

the dark being needed to recognise the colours needed for working hot metal and the heat treatments to obtain different properties. But it was though that with all ancient elements present and being used together magic is being generated.

 

That's why I like black, you see things in it, they don't have to be solid or touchable, you can see ideas, shadows of other worlds, memories and stories all waiting there in the darkness like textures that all have their own feel.

 

But yes for I have seen and felt it, there are things creeping about in and around that smithy and the sense is they are harmless, but they are only around when work is being done.

 

I think sometimes something is created that lasts when people truly connect with the processes they undertake, it makes sense that that something comes alive when the process is repeated with the essences of the same values, more so when there's ancient elements and skills involved, some things like that seem have a purity about them.

 

I feel that some places can feel laden with the weight of the past like a burden carried, others can have a feeling of freedom and light, some places can feel very strange and others very familiar yet we only just found them, I think that the unexplainable still happens for a reason.

[Sa Skimrande]

There is a pub in Colchester called ''The Hole in the Wall'' as it literally positioned in a hole in the old Roman wall that used to surround the town and it is such in that town that within the wall one does not have to dig far until one comes across charred material and terracota for the place was burned down by Boudicca's forces some 2k years ago. Well this pub had some work done where one of the rooms is subterranean and a section of the ground strata was revealed and people started hearing voices in the pub. What was thought was the composition of the ground produced a recording medium where stuff was recorded from the past as in what the ground contained was all the elements that one would find in a magnetic recording tape and so the voices the theory was were recordings being played back under certain conditions.

 

And so a smithy could be the same given the fact that there is a lot of metal in various states in a smithy and changed states fuel as the fuel used is coke which produces carbon when burned, and I have considered this, ferrite and carbon are again recording materials where I understand what might cause a playback is climatic conditions or even the energy produced by bodies moving through dry air- static electricity, and for the fact that we are electrical beings where we are told every movement is augmented by an electrical impulse, then there is aura thing that some can see, I have been able to a few times but there is a field of energy around us.

 

But given the recording and playback capabilities of minerals I agree a lot of what we could experience is recordings from the past made when conditions were right for recordings to be made.

[darkshine]

Have you ever tried to make recordings? Or photographs?

 

I haven't ever seen an aura around someone but I feel things from people, like energy, although I have used the words 'emotional tuning fork/sponge' about myself in the past... I pass people in the street or a corridor or am in the same room and some people give off something, it could be anything, most people give off very little, only their latest mood or emotion. But some people have more, sometimes I'll pass someone in the street and feel something is 'off' about them, something wrong or bad or evil, and other people can feel positive or vibrant, some can feel intensely strong in some way hard to define, and I feel people's moods too, they press down upon me.

 

It feels weird, like a premonition sometimes, but other times like another sense, depending on the person I shiver or feel a tingling in my arms and hands and through my fingers, sometimes I shudder and go suddenly cold with dread, sometimes I feel a feeling of comfort or ease - it passes as soon as they person is far away enough, but sometimes leaves an echo of a lasting effect.

[Sa Skimrande]

It used to be my mood would change rapidly when amongst people, I would cycle high an low for reasons I could not fathom until I understood I was a sponge for everyones feelings. Empathy the experts on ASD believe ASD is incapable of to which I say ball cocks, they have no idea for many an ASD will report feelings when amongst people they cannot fathom which is what?

 

About five years past I got involved with modern day witches and they did me the big favour of explaining what I was feeling and taught me self defence for one can defend themselves against this stuff and there has been many publications explaining how and so it is now, I have to really think to empathise with anyone, but what the witches call this stuff is psychic energy everyone emits and if we are bothered by it, we need to learn to defend against it.

 

I have learned, but it doesn't work all the time which I take to understand those that get through my fortifications are really troubled people and often it is with me, it creates tears as I don't know how to help them.

Edited November 5, 2012 by Sa Skimrande

[darkshine]

It used to be my mood would change rapidly when amongst people, I would cycle high an low for reasons I could not fathom until I understood I was a sponge for everyones feelings. Empathy the experts on ASD believe ASD is incapable of to which I say ball cocks, they have no idea for many an ASD will report feelings when amongst people they cannot fathom which is what?

 

My mood changes rapidly amongst people, even using the internet I get that albeit to a lesser degree, I had to fight against a diagnosis of rapid cycling bipolar a number of years back - I didn't want the label - and the mental health services backed down.

 

But that label does offer them (the mental heath docs) a plausible reason for such things, I look at the criteria and I can see how I fit into that, but if I sit in a room on my own my mood does not cycle or peak and dip anywhere near as extremely as when it does when I am amongst people.

 

I feel a lot of feelings that do not have words, I've even been looking at words to define emotions but there aren't words for some of the things I feel, if someone were to ask me at those times to describe what I am feeling I wouldn't be able to say (I've had this happen with friends and psychologists or psychiatrists) and I am left with no words for them, I want to gesture and stuff because there's no words and maybe the gestures I want to make describe things, but those people don't understand what gestures of explanation mean (so I stopped doing it).

 

And I could not work out how they couldn't feel what I was feeling, for the feeling was in the room and I was overwhelmed but they did not notice a thing - I hoped that there was a telepathic way of passing the information from me to another, but that doesn't work either because a lot of people are closed.

 

Sometimes I wish I could make it go away, or as you put it "defend" myself against that stuff, but I'm not really sure if I want to as its one of the ways that I understand people from the stuff they give off - but at the same time I feel that choice is a valuable thing in life and I would like to choose sometimes whether I want to openly receive this stuff in the world or not.

 

If the modern day witches explained what you were feeling is psychic energy, how did you defend against it - or what publications did they recommend?

 

Empathy is something I can turn off and on sometimes - but other times I have no choice and I get overloaded by how I feel for other people's troubles, I seem to be tuned into to pain and bad stuff, negativity and such more than anything else. I feel people's pain when they talk about things or tell me things, I feel it if they are in the room with me or not, and it hurts me deep inside as though I feel the same things they do. People seem to like that I understand, but they don't always realise how much it hurts me, not physically, it hurts in my mind and my heart and my soul. It can be like being crushed to death or buried in another's pain and grief and torment...

[Sa Skimrande]

Well a publication I read on advice was ''psychic self defence'' originally a publication by Dion Fortune who was engaged is psychic warfare in WW2 for not many are aware, but Churchill engaged psychics to help where they could as he ruled out nothing to win against the Nazis, bearing in mind it was known the Nazi's were using psychic warfare on Britain and the whole insignia of the nazis has occult origins. But the text by Dion Fortune is a bit heavy going and so there are more modern approaches, but if you are interested I understand the book is in the PDF below,I can't check as I am on a very slow internet connection at the moment ;

 

http://jacquesricher.com/occult/psychic.pdf

 

There are other publications by other writers, even writers engaged in martial arts for they also do not rule out any form of attack.

 

I can't remember the lessons, but I don't suffer so bad with the stuff I used to receive so I can only take it somewhere in my mind I have switched off that sensor, just like I seem to have switched off any response to tickling, as I used to ticklish, I am not now, not at all.

 

What I tend to do when I detect overwhelming feelings now, is back off out of a situation, being a smoker has given me an excuse, five minutes outside is enough to get things into proportion.

[darkshine]

The benefits of smoking I use that as an excuse on the rare occasions I go somewhere and need a few minutes to try and collect myself, I'm trying to cut down, but there's something in the act of rolling a ciggie and diving out of a situation sometimes.

 

Thanks for the link, my internet connection is moderately low at the best of times, but I reckon it'll open in the next couple of minutes.

 

I like to keep an open mind about things, this is very difficult with depression sometimes, but within my personality is the desire to remain open to things and the things we have been talking about the last couple of days have really interested me and unlocked part of myself that I had locked away, I need to not forget that again because I think life can be better when we are ourselves.

 

What do you think about stone circles? I've always fancied visiting some - as part of my reclusive lifestyle for the last decade I haven't really gone anywhere, but these types of monuments have always held an appeal.

[karmadestiny]

It used to be my mood would change rapidly when amongst people, I would cycle high an low for reasons I could not fathom until I understood I was a sponge for everyones feelings. Empathy the experts on ASD believe ASD is incapable of to which I say ball cocks, they have no idea for many an ASD will report feelings when amongst people they cannot fathom which is what?

 

About five years past I got involved with modern day witches and they did me the big favour of explaining what I was feeling and taught me self defence for one can defend themselves against this stuff and there has been many publications explaining how and so it is now, I have to really think to empathise with anyone, but what the witches call this stuff is psychic energy everyone emits and if we are bothered by it, we need to learn to defend against it.

 

I have learned, but it doesn't work all the time which I take to understand those that get through my fortifications are really troubled people and often it is with me, it creates tears as I don't know how to help them.

 

It can be really overwhelming as some peoples dense energy can literally drained you out of ever ounce of life...I've been working on my chakras the energy points in our bodies that correspond to colour frequencies etc...You may all ready know about these...through these excercises I've learnt to now draw my aura in when I know I will be visiting certain people who I know have very negative and heavy energy fields...this does take time to learn and takes a bit of comittment to do...Another exercise I do just after my meditation is to visualise a gold energy field, and enclosed myself within a sphere of energy and make intention that I am safe from other people energy...that is usually enough for me to be around certain people without feeling overwhelmed...We are just extra sensitive than others and can feel the emotions and feelings so much more easily...It can be a good tool to help connect emotionally to people but it can have devastating affect on the reciever if not shielded properly...

Edited November 5, 2012 by karmadestiny

[karmadestiny]

The benefits of smoking I use that as an excuse on the rare occasions I go somewhere and need a few minutes to try and collect myself, I'm trying to cut down, but there's something in the act of rolling a ciggie and diving out of a situation sometimes.

 

Thanks for the link, my internet connection is moderately low at the best of times, but I reckon it'll open in the next couple of minutes.

 

I like to keep an open mind about things, this is very difficult with depression sometimes, but within my personality is the desire to remain open to things and the things we have been talking about the last couple of days have really interested me and unlocked part of myself that I had locked away, I need to not forget that again because I think life can be better when we are ourselves.

 

What do you think about stone circles? I've always fancied visiting some - as part of my reclusive lifestyle for the last decade I haven't really gone anywhere, but these types of monuments have always held an appeal.

 

What are stone circles, do they hold some sort of spiritual significance?

[Sa Skimrande]

Lots of theories on stone circles, but the one the archaeologists cling to is that stone circles are some kind of clock in that some of them, not all are built so that at certain times of the year, usually the winter solstice but occasionally the summer solstice as in Stonehenge certain key stones line up with the sun, so some kind of timing device for some of them, but as I say, not all and these ones stump the scientists.

 

But geomancers, ley line surveyors and all manner of people have theories, but in this world unless something is peer reviewed with sound scientific principle, it's nonsense, but we don't know everything, so with me, I keep an open mind, but one thing I am interested in as mentioned up the page somewhere is geometry and it is interesting to note the geometry of some of these things and possible coincidences with other man made structures around the world

 

But there is one down here I need to go and visit for the purposes of photography, it has a central stone which I have heard catches the morning rays of light at sunrise and glows a pinky colour, methinks I would like to bivvy out at night and be ready to see that and get a few pics, but when I do photography, where I have an idea in mind, it is always tripod work, I take my time, so bivvying before sunrise I will be able to plot my photographic locations.

 

But an interesting web page on stone circles ;

 

http://www.ancient-wisdom.co.uk/stonecircles.htm

 

And the Geometry of Avebury Stone circle;

 

http://www.kch42.dial.pipex.com/Avebury.htm

 

And a study conducted on another stone circle with a lot of legend attached to it, but with some interesting phenomena recorded ;

 

http://www.megalithic.co.uk/mm/book/devereux1trans.htm

 

^ It was this circle that I had a camera issue with where the film was damaged and I was asked had been near a source of radiation.

 

But Chakras, I looked into them years ago, but they didn't resound with me, in that I felt it was part of something much deeper and alien to our understanding in that we are not from the culture that understood the intricacies of this theory, so really we were scratching the surface, guessing as opposed to knowing.

 

But for me to understand, I have to immerse myself in the culture and yes I have always wanted to go to India it feels in a way a spiritual home, but I can't just go there for a few weeks and I don't have the confidence or the positivity to travel around India back packing, I fear my communication skills. But I have always done Yoga off and on, both hatha and Iyengar and a bit of Ashtanga and have followed a bit of buddhism via Osho and been awed by the Vimana's recorded in sanskrit epics, ( it gets nutty with the Vimanas) and I also wear a silver Shiva Nataraja for belonging.

 

But colour therapy, I know works as I have employed that before and I stumped somebody once when I said colours smell. But of protective stuff I studied creative visualisation and stuff I wanted protecting I visualised blue fire around and did the same with my vehicle and so whenever I saw a reflection of my vehicle, it had a fiery blue aura.

 

But talking about this sort of stuff the last few days has also made me realise the depression over the last five years has severely hit my travelling about and wondering, and this talking has got it into my mind I need to do something about my own reclusive habits as it is not helping really.

Edited November 6, 2012 by Sa Skimrande

[Sa Skimrande]

And talking about Vimana's, I went off reading about the things again and found ;

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qBlwhVyZxmQ#!

 

Fact or another Nibiru I have no idea, but interesting nonetheless.

[karmadestiny]

Wow!...Can't beleive the worlds top leaders actually visiting this site in Afghanistan to see ancient flying saucer, I tend to take things like that 'with a pinch of salt' now adays... but it does make you think whats out there:)...?

 

Skimrande, since you're thinking of backpacking anyway, just take a little de tour and see what you can find out;)p!

[Sa Skimrande]

Wow!...Can't beleive the worlds top leaders actually visiting this site in Afghanistan to see ancient flying saucer, I tend to take things like that 'with a pinch of salt' now adays... but it does make you think whats out there:)...?

 

Skimrande, since you're thinking of backpacking anyway, just take a little de tour and see what you can find out;)p!

 

Having served in the armed forces I know enough to keep away from military operations and Afghanistan is out of the question anyway as people from my country have made me an enemy to those that fight there although I have read much about the country it's diverse people and landscape and it was on my list of places to visit prior to this last decade as it sure sounds as a a good place to visit but I am their enemy through being British and it will take them a long time before they forget past enemies as they have not forgotten past attempts at invasion.

 

And as said, I lack the confidence in doing what many do through the communicational issues that I have.

 

But ''time wells'' the stuff of science fiction and indeed the Tesla and Einstein inspired '' Philadelphia Experiment '' but it surprises me this kind of science fiction stuff has come out, it is not usual and I wonder if this is an attempt to hide discoveries in the open for it is true one can hide anything in the truth if enough people don't believe in obscure science and in this case it is unbelievable to me that the authorities would mention this stuff unless they are attempting to hide the discovery in the truth. But time will tell we will hear more about this or we won't by which time it will be forgotten by most.

 

But the Vimana's are well documented in Sanskrit epics dating from 4500 years ago only some of which have been translated into English, but it is known the Indian authorities are trying to recreate some of the technologies described in the Sanskrit texts for the technologies; advanced materials are apparently well described and there has been reports from India where scientists have recreated materials with unusual properties, one of which was a glass like substance that when something is coated in it, it renders that object invisible to RADAR. Further to that Zoroaster existed for he is the origin of the Zoroastrian religion which was the predominant religion of Persia which is now Iran before Islam conquered, where Iran have said they have evidence of the remains of giants where it is also mentioned the remains of giants have been found under the the plain of Giza in Egypt where the great pyramids stand, monuments involving a lot of advanced mathematics.

 

But the accuracy of Sanskrit as a language might be called to question but it is known classical sanskrit which was used in religious ceremony stands to be accurate through being used in religious ceremony where accuracy is paramount, but it is an interesting language which was generally only taught to the higher echelons of society and was supposed to be the original language of Persia.

 

Oh and Freddie Mercury of the popular rock band Queen, remember him, his religion was Zoroastrian, he being Asian as Zoroastrianism is still practised in Iran, albeit a minority religion but protected by the laws of Islam with even guaranteed seats in the Iranian parliament.

 

But I better back off on this as I can see ideas starting to form, but let's all hope we have a better future.

[darkshine]

But talking about this sort of stuff the last few days has also made me realise the depression over the last five years has severely hit my travelling about and wondering, and this talking has got it into my mind I need to do something about my own reclusive habits as it is not helping really.

 

That's a good conclusion, and one I am working on in my life. If nothing is done then nothing will change.

[karmadestiny]

Skimrande, each time I read your post you seem to amaze me even more in regards to your knowledge about anything and everything:)...I wish I could answer back with equal elaboration and awareness but as someone who just about belted the very basic English ( as you can see from my spelling and literacy skills;) and hasn't really had the oppotunity to travel the world its hard to even start:).... Funnily enough a few days ago I was talking to someone and the subject somehow came around to people 9ft tall existing in previous times...apperantly there are graves which remain till today...I would have loved to see for myself but alas it wasn't possible...the person I was talking to gave me a confused look and asked, "how come theres no registerd evidence of these people existing especially in the European countries?"...that I couldn't answer but it got me wondering also why only the Eastern countries seem to know of these people...I'm sure if there was any case of these people existance in the West we would have known by now...

 

YOu know I never knew Freddie Mercury was from an Eastern country....What country was he from than? He didn't have the typical eastern looks;)...I've never come across the word Vimana before...thats really interesting...I'm gonna look into that...Chakras aren't for eveybody, for me the spiritual aspect of chakras has been a great lifeline...even though Hinduism isn't my faith...the spiritual aspects of sufism and the spirituality behind the chakras relate closely...( I can feel your brain ticking over, trying to tie some clues together:)...

 

I'm sure if you ventured across Afghanistan without a soldiers uniform you would be most welcome...but theres always tomorrow, never say never...If you need any lessons in Hindi or Urdu, let me know, I can teach you the basics:)...Do you think theres any truth in 'Area 57, or is it area 51?' in America, thats always facinated me...

[Sa Skimrande]

Ah alas, I seem to have a mind that is not picky with what information it sucks up from anywhere and when I think of a subject I just seems to spew out so much that I wonder where it all came from and so I engage in pub quiz's where my forte is obscure facts, mostly science, maths and technology also current affairs and the occult.

 

But talking of the occult, area 51 in the US and other similar installations world wide understand one thing what the military keeps the public away from suspicion will always fester, where all manner of ideas can spring, especially so when 'leaked' information hits mainstream which in itself could be a ploy to hide stuff in wacky conspiracy theory and what people deign as fringe nut jobs often discredited, it is the perfect camouflage. As mentioned earlier sometimes the best way to hide something is in the open and disbelief will do the hiding, plain old human nature, if it is too good to be true, it is often not true. But I don't doubt the military of the world are doing exactly the same as what the Nazi's did in trying to find fabled weaponry to gain the upper edge against any foe for it is all a power game.

 

As to understand every culture's fable and myth features things in common described as shooting fire and spears that go where they are sent, the gae Bulga of the Irish Ulster Cycle of myth springs to mind in this respect, but a modern comparison would be a guided missile, but there are others in other cultures.

 

Then there also chariots that fly and indeed the angels themselves might very well be observations of people that are seen to descend from the sky as the sky was always the heavens in antiquity, I keep an open mind because it is highly possible things are not as they seem and the very act of some religions is to keep things hidden as if the designers wished to obliterate all knowledge of some things from general circulation. But there is this from Ezekiel circa 600 BCE and this which might or might not coincide with the Vimana stuff.

 

As to giants, I seem to remember something I read years ago when I was into archaeology, something about graves that have been found that feature incomplete skeletons in that it is assumed to fit the bodies into the standard grave size the bottom half of the legs have been cut off, which might be reference to giants or just large people, but evidence is probably all out there somewhere lost in archives buried under obscurity, for one thing is particularly common about those that work on a scientific framework, is that they struggle with imagination beyond scientific constraints, that is what has been proved or can be proved one way or the other by scientific method as we know it at the time and so conclusions are made and stuff shelved and rare it is minds go back to the past to re examine as most have forgotten of a thing's very existence, as this demonstrates succinctly. But there is an argument that states that in pursuing qualification minds can actually be closed to other possibilities other than the strict confines of the qualification, and with that I am inclined to agree.

 

But this find in Afghanistan, I really do hope it is not a ploy to stay longer in the country, as it is western people are demanding the withdrawal immediately not 2014, but now as the war lacks a political objective and in order to pursue a successful military action one must always have a political objective without which public support wains rapidly as we are seeing and as regards Iran the Iranians are members of the International Atomic Energy Agency and signatories to the Nuclear Non proliferation Treaty and are prepared for inspection, but it appears some people aren't listening, but I don't doubt if an attack on Iran commences fighting against Iran will not be like Iraq, as they also like the Afghans have a history of military prowess and in this respect perhaps some are more wary, for Afghanistan has been an education.

 

Freddy Mercury, born Farroukh Bulsara and was a Parsee of which I understand actually means Persian and he grew up in India and Zanzibar, but perhaps his likeness is not so much Asian, but Persian given his family religion of Zoroastrian which was the Persian religion pre Islam.

 

As to future travel in regions my country wages war, I hope those places will not be barred to us as that is the biggest impact of war, it creates tensions for years afterwards which really serves no one, not anyone making from the situation at least.

 

But your language on here, spelling and such I don't notice as it is here it is common we miss words out and spell innccorrectly, but me being aware my speling has taken a bit of a nose dive since I joined the internet generation, what words I use come to me out of my mind and where I am unsure of the spelling and indeed the meaning I search online and as I do, I learn new things as origins of words is also a fascination I have. But aside from the autistic typicality of what I have just mentioned, I find it is also common in the NT population as well and am understanding people just don't care as long as it looks reasonably right, for a sloppiness has crept in to our communication. I also take ages to write posts as I read and re- read to make sure what I have said makes sense.

 

And then I usually end up editing what I have written.

[Mike_GX101]

I watched a documentary along time ago where there was a theory that hauntings that were taking place in an old pub were in fact 'recordings' left over in the silicon within the sandstone walls at times of upheaval and stress.

 

Now whether you believe such nonsense is up to you but it is true that sand does often contain silica (S102) which is silicon dioxide. And silicon is the same material computer memory chips are made of which is rather intriguing to say the least!

[Sa Skimrande]

Something is only nonsense if there is no sense in it where you have described silicon is quite rightly in silicon chips, but the silicon in silicon chips is in fact the wafer the circuits are printed onto, so maybe.

 

Similarly earlier I mentioned 'recordings' that were is a pub in Colchester where they found the composition of the earth strata to be of a similar composition to that found in magnetic recording tape and given electro magnetism is all around us, there is the capacity to record whatever media. and play it back.

 

And so that could be a logical explanation for some phenomena at least.

[Mike_GX101]

Yes I think that was the pub the documentary was referring to!

 

But check out the following link: Next generation memory chips

 

Perhaps soon there will literally be the stone_wall:/ drive!

Edited November 10, 2012 by Mike_GX101