salt assessment

[got the tshirt]

Dd3 had a salt assessment today, phew

We didn't tell her till this morning, to help stop the anxiety. She took a plastic smurf [ anyone remember those] with her.

She had a wobble outside the building but not serious. I told her we were going to see someone who is interested in language and communication. She said, there's nothing wrong with my communication and I am not talking to her.

That lasted all of 30 seconds. She was great, and although she did really well, the tests definatly threw up some quirks in her understanding.

We were really lucky with the Lady who saw us because she is currently supporting some very able teenage girls with AS. She seemed very experienced so fingers crossed.

[trekster]

Good luck in getting a diagnosis and help for your daughter.

[shaz71]

Good luck in getting a diagnosis and help for your daughter.

 

That is good, my daughter is the opposite i have to tell her otherwise she goes mental and won't do anything, i have to warn her several times, i have tried dropping it on her and she flips. Glad to see you have a speech therapist who is asd friendly as that helps, my daughters was just a normal speech therapist. Sharon x

[trekster]

That is good, my daughter is the opposite i have to tell her otherwise she goes mental and won't do anything, i have to warn her several times, i have tried dropping it on her and she flips. Glad to see you have a speech therapist who is asd friendly as that helps, my daughters was just a normal speech therapist. Sharon x

 

im an aspie and was diagnosed 14 years ago after a lot of fighting. It has taken sometime to accept me for who i am. i dont have any kids at all.

 

[got the tshirt]

That is good, my daughter is the opposite i have to tell her otherwise she goes mental and won't do anything, i have to warn her several times, i have tried dropping it on her and she flips. Glad to see you have a speech therapist who is asd friendly as that helps, my daughters was just a normal speech therapist. Sharon x

 

Yeah see what your'e saying about giving warnings about stuff, but my daughter generally gets sooo stressed that we are trying a different tack, that is not telling her till a short while before we go.

So far it has been reasonably successful although it makes me feel terrible as it goes against the grain to spring things on her.

Sometimes she flips anyway whether there is a week or 5 minutes warning.

We were impressed by the fact that the lady was already seeing some AS girls. and she seemed very knowledgable, just have to wait for the report now !

 

[got the tshirt]

Good luck in getting a diagnosis and help for your daughter.

 

 

Thanx trekster, we feel that we are at least being listened to, so far the professionals we have seen this time round have been very supportive. Lets hope things are starting to change and people have started to learn from the many mistakes which have been made over dx'ing ASD'S in the past.

[trekster]

Thanx trekster, we feel that we are at least being listened to, so far the professionals we have seen this time round have been very supportive. Lets hope things are starting to change and people have started to learn from the many mistakes which have been made over dx'ing ASD'S in the past.

 

An interesting book "aspergers and girls" is one i would recommend. Autistic women talk about what's its like to be an autistic woman.

The pressure on society to be ladylike and polite and sociable can get too much for us autistic women at times. Its not expected by the

autistic men.

[got the tshirt]

An interesting book "aspergers and girls" is one i would recommend. Autistic women talk about what's its like to be an autistic woman.

The pressure on society to be ladylike and polite and sociable can get too much for us autistic women at times. Its not expected by the

autistic men.

 

 

Yeah I have got this book. Although I have found it quite hard to read, I am going to have another go at it. I was quite stressd last time I tried, trying to decide whether to go down the dx route with Dd3. Now we have done that and have been listened to I will do some more reading.

The scary thing is the more I read the more I realise I could maybe get a dx for myself.

Can totally go with you on the being ladylike and sociable stuff, people I know think I am antisocial but I just find the whole "what do I wear" too much, I have the same fleece jumper in about 8 different colours and the choice of which colour to wear is enough for me. You just can't wear a fleece to a nice restaraunt.

 

Tonight my Dd2 [nt] is singing with her choir in Frankie and Benny's. I can cope with that. Have gone for the dark red fleece!!!

 

[trekster]

Yeah I have got this book. Although I have found it quite hard to read, I am going to have another go at it. I was quite stressd last time I tried, trying to decide whether to go down the dx route with Dd3. Now we have done that and have been listened to I will do some more reading.

The scary thing is the more I read the more I realise I could maybe get a dx for myself.

Can totally go with you on the being ladylike and sociable stuff, people I know think I am antisocial but I just find the whole "what do I wear" too much, I have the same fleece jumper in about 8 different colours and the choice of which colour to wear is enough for me. You just can't wear a fleece to a nice restaurant.

 

Tonight my Dd2 [nt] is singing with her choir in Frankie and Benny's. I can cope with that. Have gone for the dark red fleece!!!

 

Wondering if you could be assessed at the same time as DD3? Or if you wish for a diagnosis for yourself 1st before trying to help your kids?

[got the tshirt]

Wondering if you could be assessed at the same time as DD3? Or if you wish for a diagnosis for yourself 1st before trying to help your kids?

 

 

Haven't really decided what to do yet, probably wouldn't get support from my mum. She said matching the pegs on the washing line was just being organised., when I suggested that this was slightly obsessive. It took her 15 years to accept that Dd1 was quirky!

Don't know how she didn't suspect something when I ate the same lunch everyday for a whole year at secondary school.

Relations not great with rest of family, have one cousin I grew up with, we are very similar and get each other which is great.

The first time we met Dd3's pead she said my note keeping was very methodical, with raised eyebrows. I did an AQ test a couple of weeks ago and scored really high.

But we will see I have managed for 42 years, I think maybe just having some answers for myself is ok.

Have to concentrate on Dd3 for now.

Sorry to ramble I have actually never typed any of this stuff before, this is the right place to come for offloading.

 

Frankie and Benny's went well the choir sounded great, Dd3 overloaded on pizza. and no one cared that I was wearing a fleece.

Thanx for taking the time to reply.

 

[got the tshirt]

Back to the point.

Something I forgot that the salt said. She showed me the paper work sent by the school [ a questionaire] and on it they had put that Dd3's eye contact was good.

I asked the salt what she thought about Dd3's eye contact and she said she thought it was fleeting at best, certainly not good.

I am now wondering why the teacher would have put that her eye contact is good. I rarely get good eye contact and the salt hardly got any.

The school have generally been supportive, this just seems a bit odd.

Any ideas ?

[trekster]

Back to the point.

Something I forgot that the salt said. She showed me the paper work sent by the school [ a questionaire] and on it they had put that Dd3's eye contact was good.

I asked the salt what she thought about Dd3's eye contact and she said she thought it was fleeting at best, certainly not good.

I am now wondering why the teacher would have put that her eye contact is good. I rarely get good eye contact and the salt hardly got any.

The school have generally been supportive, this just seems a bit odd.

Any ideas ?

 

We can appear to be making eye contact when in fact we could be looking at the mouth of the speaker. A teacher wouldn't be likely to know the difference unless they knew about autism. A SALT or similar specialist would know the difference.

 

Alexis

[got the tshirt]

We can appear to be making eye contact when in fact we could be looking at the mouth of the speaker. A teacher wouldn't be likely to know the difference unless they knew about autism. A SALT or similar specialist would know the difference.

 

Alexis

 

 

Yep that is a good point, as I said school are usually helpful. It could just be that Dd3 is getting better at making it look like she is looking at the person.

[ not something I have mastered yet, so she's one up on me already].

Thanx again for repyling

[JsMum]

 

 

Hi, J has good eye contact too, but he still does not differenciate the different facial clues, so say a person smiles, but its a snide smile he wouldnt pick it up, he doesnt read body language and there is many ways the person with an ASD compensates for the eye contact, in his early mainstream school days the teacher would shout in his face, LOOK AT ME WHEN IM SPEAKING, so he would fixate on her glassrim or her chipped tooth or a pimple and stare at that, over time he now just this, he can not look at someone and listen very well, anyway, but just because they look like they are showing good eye contact it doesnt mean that the rest is going with it eye contact is not a criteria anyway, if any thing J can give you a very good eye contact in the form of a very defiant glare!

 

JsMumxxx

 

[Sally44]

Back to the point.

Something I forgot that the salt said. She showed me the paper work sent by the school [ a questionaire] and on it they had put that Dd3's eye contact was good.

I asked the salt what she thought about Dd3's eye contact and she said she thought it was fleeting at best, certainly not good.

I am now wondering why the teacher would have put that her eye contact is good. I rarely get good eye contact and the salt hardly got any.

The school have generally been supportive, this just seems a bit odd.

Any ideas ?

 

As already said how do you 'measure' eye contact and whether it is the same as a NT person's eye contact?

My son cannot talk and look at you at the same time. But he can make eye contact inbetween sentences. If he is requested to make eye contact eg. by a teacher, he can do it - but then he won't be able to hear a word they say.

He gets some facial expressions, yet he cannot recall peoples names, so how much visual information is he getting no one knows.

At other times he can come up to you and look you right in the eyes. If he is trying to get my attention he will physically turn my face towards him, and then turn his head away to avoid eye contact!

I've heard at seminars that if you want to be sure a child on the spectrum 'is listening' the first thing you do is tell them you are going to tell them something, then tell them. And don't expect eye contact or even for them to be facing the same way as you if they are unable to do that at the same time. It all depends on the individuals functioning level and on the integraded connection of the sensory and perceptual systems and cohesion and language understanding etc.

And 'eye contact' has many different uses eg. to keep a person's attention, to let them know you are listening to what they say, to show emotion through the eyes, to read another persons facial and body gestures etc.

You might want to ask the SALT about a questionnaire called 'Talkability'. This is something both me and school completed to see what my son's social skills were and that included everything and not just eye contact, although eye contact was included in this questionnaire.

[trekster]

Hi, J has good eye contact too, but he still does not differenciate the different facial clues, so say a person smiles, but its a snide smile he wouldnt pick it up, he doesnt read body language and there is many ways the person with an ASD compensates for the eye contact, in his early mainstream school days the teacher would shout in his face, LOOK AT ME WHEN IM SPEAKING, so he would fixate on her glassrim or her chipped tooth or a pimple and stare at that, over time he now just this, he can not look at someone and listen very well, anyway, but just because they look like they are showing good eye contact it doesnt mean that the rest is going with it eye contact is not a criteria anyway, if any thing J can give you a very good eye contact in the form of a very defiant glare!

 

JsMumxxx

 

i heard a few parents mentioned the diagnosis was delayed due to good eye contact with their kids! This could have been back in the 90s mind you.