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Pearl , wow, just reading about that, i will try that too, thanks,x

Thanks all. Frogslegs, it could well be sress related, hard to tell if stress is the trigger or he gets stressed because he cant stop passing wind. It seems like it gets trapped and he is less anxious once he's been able to pass it. Lovely. He's always had loose stools ( im sorry) this started at 15 months old, straight after the MMR and has stayed with him since, and it is so frustrating when the medical profession take no notice. On my insistance he was once refered to a stomach clinic at the local hospital,6 years ago, but because he wouldnt allow anyone near him for blood tests, (and in my opinion, no one seems keen to test people with learning disabilities for anything),i was told i was being OTT, and it must be acid relux and irritable bowel. Forgot what i was going to say , but yes i will try the probiotic suggestion as i hav'nt tried this before, thanks Jaded. Ive just had the results back from the Univeristy of Sunderland for the Gluten/ Casein diet testing thingy and he isnt intolerant, waste of sixty pound his support workers tell me, but its not, as i know its not that now. I also sent off a sample to intolerance to food, and this came back that he was intolerant to monk fish and peas, hes never eaten monk fish and rarely eats peas.? Baddad, that has made me lots of times, im still ing! Bid yes, it could well be gulping down too much air, am thinking now of ways to try and minimise him doing that, thanks again, x

I've been wondering if it could be due to the way he eats and drinks. He bolts food down with minimal chewing and gulps back drinks, he has always done this. Has anyone heard of this causing flatulence ?

Isnt it great when that happens, good stuff. I take my son to club nights that are for adults with disabilities, the whole venue turns into a night club, and they are best night clubs ive ever been to

Ah ok, so maybe vaccinating at an older age, may be safer than vaccinating at 1 years old, makes sense ?

I know this might sound a bit daft, but, can you have the MMR at any age? Does it have to be when children are so young? Say, if a child had it at 5, 6 or 7, surely they would be more unlikely to develop autism then. What do you think ?

Another perspective. It has to be about balance. How many children damaged by MMR v dying or being disabled from measles? I think, (but I may be wrong as I dont have any statistics) 1 in around 100 children develop autism? ( not necessarily/always from MMR), do 1 in 100 children die or become disabled from measles in this country? I dont know, probably not? I wouldnt risk the MMR, personally. That is just my opinion .

Yes Bid, yes of course I can see why it upset you , so here is a big fat sloppy kiss, as you are all so nice *kiss* ( no smiley face for this? ) Here i go with my big size 5's, (deep breath) I ask because im interested in what everyone says. Is it sometimes a little bit harsh to chastise someone for taking into consideration someone else's possible autism when chatting in real life or online? I ask because, when someone talks with my son, them taking into account his autism is very important, for all sorts of reasons. So in his case, even a slight generalisation, would be better than none. What do you think? I hope this is'nt offensive as I dont mean it to be . , x

Sooze, dont feel bad , i fell like this too, when my son goes to respite , sometimes i think, do I really want him home ? , x

Bid and Mumble I am truly sorry if i offended you personally, it was not intentional Baddad, I have indeed, been a very very naughty girl and kinky ...what can I say ... I thought you would have had a sense of humour !! ,x

So what do you suggest Baddad , the naughty step for me ?

only if you read it that way surely ? what i mean is, if you consider consideration as patronising that is down to you, and im not being patronising, i never was.

some autistic people on the forum then? and some NT people on the forum too?

Ok, but cant you tell that alexmum was angry and venting off steam?? Someone had seriously upset her son for gods sake! Does she really need to be made to feel any worse because she used an over the top word? Surely we've all said things in the heat of the moment in real life and on a forum, Crikey , burn her at the stake eh !

Hi Bid, sorry if I offend you. Some people sometimes reply abruptly/rudely/cant see both sides of debate/ due to autism or NT! As this is an ASD forum surely it is important to take it into consideration sometimes, maybe? x

birth has to be the most dangerous journey of any ones life

oh come on baddad you cant wind everyone up and then clear off ! ,x

shelby has lived a happy/fulfilled life, how do you measure it? how do you know she has lived a happy/fulfilled life? because she smiles? because the mum says so? you've often said parents might not always know whats best. so we are assuming again, surely?

yes i agree. What i am asking though is, is it fair to pass on a hereditary condition to another child you may have in the future? when i said she was brave , i meant that, she is brave to potentially do it all over again with another child, most couldnt.

yes, my son was born with the cord round his neck and blue, until they sorted it out. My friends asd daughter was starved of oxygen and as a result has no enamel on her teeth, her identical twin is fine.

Hi BD - yes i hear that, and she is right. Lets hope Shelby would agree. The mum is very brave. Is it fair on potential children to knowingly give them this disability and pain though?

Sorry, ive just re read what ive typed and it sounds quite callous. I really didnt mean it that way. What I meant was, would you knowingly put a child through all that pain, if you knew you was a carrier of the gene ?

I caught about half of it last night, ive followed it from the start. dear Shelby, i really like her mum, but still cant understand why she continues to have children when she knows they have a 50/50 ( if i remember rightly) chance of having this disability, and doesnt believe in abortion Really really nice parents and grandparents

Yes your right, as long as the teacher tells her side truthfully and doesnt dismiss the boys ' instincts ', we all have them for a reason !

alexmum, i hope your boy's ok now. Having a horrible teacher, for whatever reasons, must be awful . Hope you get it sorted soon, x