Richt

On day 8 of patches, totally clean, but not sure why I shouldn't fall off the tree and have a smoke. After all, am I going to live long enough to make it worthwhile? And does it matter? You can't pm me, our server is dead so I won't get it for a couple of weeks, if anyone is interested. Richard

Could say something here about the kind of people who want to fight against a free culture in favour of an oppressed one, but I won't, already been pulled up once

Well, not sure if Neil is still following his string, or I can introduce a new one... But this is easy: "Watching John with the machine, it all seemed so clear... Of all the so called father's who came and went through his life... Wouldn't get drunk and hurt him etc" Probably the best monologue in any film ever rich (Flying on Saturday - blimey)

lion (Boss-eyed:Daktari!) Bless him, he was excellent, I'd forgotten his name was Clarence (the cross eyed lion)

Clarence's (Dunno why I just thought of pots)

Neil Young - Freedom

Icehouse did hit it here with great southern land - but only if you liked Young Einstein with that nutty comedian Yahoo Serious

Asbestosis (Now get out of that - the workers thought they'd a nice little income lagging pipes, lining chimneys etc)

If you're struggling with number 5, I'd take the ELO, just to have mr blue sky with me, and a reminder that I'm a wild west hero. I've been thinking about the books a bit, Kafka? -no, dostyvesky? - can't even spell his name, probably Fly fishing by J.R. Hartley, it could come in useful - or how to brew beer by I.M. Hopper.

5 Music Albums, 3 books (and as much trashy stuff as you like) 1 Luxury item. And I guess you can have the music loaded on an ipod with unlimited batteries. Music: Gong, Magick Invocations - because it's a double album and I get to cheat! (Anytime I feel out of it I can tune in and relax) Neil Young "rocking in a free world" Alice Cooper "Hey stoopid" and "The Last Temptation" - I got that one as a promo double pack (so I cheat again!) lol The Pogues, The Ultimate collection - ( What, not another double CD!!!!) Marillion, script for a Jester's Tear So musically, I can surf all the emotions I need stranded on my island, who needs people? Books, I might take the Bible, but doubt it, Number one for me would be an atlas of the world (excluding 500 square miles round my island) if the mods let me. Number 2 would be the complete works of Shakespeare because I'D HAVE ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD TO WORK OUT WHAT THE HELL ALL THE EXCITEMENT WAS ABOUT! Number 3 would be some documentary about people, so I could learn to understand them Luxury item - dead easy, a shelter with WiFi broadband through satellite

Well I always got on better with adult conversation as a child than with kids' stuff. Maybe it was the rules being easier to understand. Doesn't help when you're an adult though and you realise that all the stuff they were going on about was rubbish! Maybe it's good that AS children can interact with adults, but it doesn't teach them a lot about interacting with their peer group. As an old person, I've run out of real people I can talk to, unless you include posting on here and emailing.

Canopus If you are really angry about this, I'm not going to defend other people's misguided thinking. Some children respond well to behaviour modification, but they are nt kids who understand boundaries, they can be angry about paula stealing their toy, lash out and then be "punished" so they learn that stealing and lashing out are not acceptable. The whole point of BM was it missed children who were truly bemused about action, and consequence. Rightly a teacher might say "it's not nice to take your trousers down in class" , but the teacher should have some understanding about why the trousers are down and respond appropriately to the child (Understand the motivations and circumstance) I think that only happened in some places, the rest were just interested in making the children compliant

council

Makes it hard to move on when two adults seperate if there is no "goodbye" or promise to be there for the child. Sometimes it is right to be clinical and cut all ties, othertimes it is better (and harder) to allow the Adult / child relationship to carry on. From the child's point of view, it's better for the main carer not to be the bad news bod. Let your ex maintain the relationship as long as he can, if he lets your child down, deal with it together. The important relationship is between the child and the "other significant adult". Not the Adult / Adult relationship. I'm not saying don't move on, just think it's better for your child to make judgements about the absent partner in his own time. R

canopus I don't know where or when you went to school, but (facing facts) before 1940's no-one had ever thought that children were anything other than "Naughty" a good hiding sorted them out. During the war, people like Winnicott and Homer Lane got their head round the fact that these children weren't naughty, just different. (Angry, upset, traumatised and acting out as a result, but not malicious - perhaps simply crying out for attention) In the 60's folks like Marion Benathon pushed it a bit further, somewhere along the line people like Robert Laslett started to question and a whole new movement was created, the children were labelled "Maladjusted", they didn't fit into the nice picture of society as village greens and cream teas. There was a move to make the label less damning in the late 80's, so children became EBD. I remember Paul visiting(around 1990), he was 10 or so and looked like he came from the "Persil" family, white BMW, white shorts, white T shirt. I was very new on the staff then, having met the family I had to take Paul down to show him the classrooms and meet his potential teacher and the rest of the children. Later I talked to the teacher and the boss and asked them what was "wrong" with Paul, they steered me to the notes, which I read. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, today, I'd cut through all the psychobabble and be fairly sure he was ASD. So there's a rise in ASD diagnosis, or possible diagnosis, big surprise, it's been diagnosable less than 20 years, people are catching up. When I was working with Paul neither of us was aware we were both possibly ASD, we understood each other, had empathy. Later, much later, my boss told me that Paul's problems stemmed from the fact he didn't understand that his parents truely loved him, they did all the right things, but he didn't pick them up. My boss was (still is I guess, very insightful - I haven't been invited to the funeral yet) By then I was a key worker for Paul. Paul "got better" because he learned how to receive, understand, accept, (dare I say it?... Love) he began to recognise that if his dad gave him a sweet, it was because his dad loved him, before, it was just a sweet. Behaviour Modification is a totally seperate animal, punishment and reward, all the child learns (maybe) is how to comply, but it doesn't help with understanding their condition and "place in society" Not much help I guess, I'm definitely no Torrey Hayden, just a bloke who has drifted through life and finally found out who he is B******* (sorry Mods) to all of it, you is what you is. So long as you make people happy around you, get on with being you, sod the diagnosis, always seek to be you and love the skin you're in, loving your skin is the first step (I kind off like myself a bit at the moment) I know who and what I am and accept it. Hey ho R