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Yes where has Lindap gone???It makes you wonder doesn't it Alibaly I take your point the world is not full of level headed people.But anyone who makes a syndrome up like A.S. or Autism because it'sthe thing to have is very sad and one should question their reasoning. My daughter was autistic for reaL after her mmr booster and anyone who wants to make something up because it's the thing to have wants to have seen her.I guarantee that it is not something they would want to have. I am sorry but I pity anyone who wants to make something up because it's the thing to have.

To be honest I cannot believe that anyone would want As because it is the in thing to have.Most people who are aware they have As and the absolute distress and heartbreak it causes would prefer not to have it.Whilst I accept if i didn't have tendancies of it I wouldn't be me how much easier my life would be if I didnt have the areas of difficulty I have because of it.And yes I recognise upbringing and life experiences can also make someone have difficulties and goes to make up the person they are.

I would say if someone is just shy then that in itself does not equal a diagnosis of AS mild or otherwise but if someone is shy has difficulties in areas of social emotional and communication which are the three main triads of impairement for Aspergers like I do then it could be probable that i have either mild aspergers or traits of aspergers.Someone has got to have more than one thing they do to say yes this person might have Aspergers.Someone who is emotional over a tv programme that is perfectly natural to me .

I think these stories are extremely sad and upsetting.It's such a shame to go through life not talking to one another especially when it's family.Have some of these <'> : <'> <'> <'>

Mossgrove Exactly many parents on this forum who suspect they may have As or As traits went through the school system when Aspergers High functioning Autism was not heard of or diagnosed and would have been labelled wierd, odd, difficult, disruptive, shy etc.Or if there really unlucky the whole lot of them I sincerely hope that things have dhanged for the better and that there is more recognition in schools today than there was then. I certainly did not learn or copy any autistic asperger traits from my children because I am lucky enough not to have any children on the spectrum.Though i have every sympathy for the parents on this forum. <'> <'> <'>

You are not a time waster and you sound like a gret guy committed and supportive to your girlfriend who appears from your posts to need help and support.Everyone on the spectrum is different but I would suggest everyone is welcome here whatever the severity or non severity of their case.Please keep posting.Your doing a great job.

I agree with you Tez.Some adults who self diagnose will be on the spectrum, some won't and some will have tendancies of aspergers or autism.

Mossgrove i would suspect that you and I are fairly alike in that we recognise we have aspie traits rather than full blown aspergers.thats why i say i have mild aspergers.But perhaps what I should say is I have aspie traits.I too went to a mainstream school and that was no problem and exactly right for me.Though i was painfully shy.

I would say that mild difficulties can only be overcome to apoint. But the reason i am saying that me personally has As only mildly is that some things I have no problem with For example Obsessions Eye contact. In other areas social, communication and emotionally i would say I am affected fairly badly particularly when I am stressed or tired. However I think that if I ever went for a diagnosis I probably would not hit their scale so perhaps it could be said I have asperger tendancies especially as my own daughter was autistic for six months which would maybe suggest a genetic link between me and her.

Mossgrove The phrase used by Lindlap 'very very mild' has the potential to offend and cause upset.I totally agree with you .No one should presume that just because someone has aspergers they are better off than someone who has autism.I know from reading all the posts on here by parents of children with aspergers what an uphill struggle it can be and my heart goes out to you all.I only had it for six months with my daughter heaven knows what it must be like to live with day after day. But glad you accept there are people with AS usually some adults with as who cope with day to day life pretty well. Like you say it can never be presumed that aspergers as a condition is always very very mild because quite frankly it is often not. <'> <'> <'> For all of you battling on.Best wishes

Years ago when my daughter(N>T>) was about three she calmly shouted out in the middle of the restaurant' look at that lady mummy isnt she ugly!' I have a whole reportoire of these Needless to say I exited very quickly from the restaurant rather red faced.

I take you point but what about the many many adults that come on here and say they have suddenly realised they have As usually after watching their recently diagnosed son or daughter do things.Surely their as must be fairly mild otherwise they would have needed help or support before or they would have realised something was wrong years ago.

Kids can be so blunt can't they. Often someone with as adults and children alike have no concept of the fact they may be hurting someones feelings and can be very blunt. After the event if someone explains to them then they can often realise they have upset someone and are really upset like your son was. Let's have a quality street the ones with the nut in please.They are my favourite.you can keep the chocolate orange.

I believe that i have mild aspergers .I do have problems with communication and emotions mainly and also being unable to read what someone else is feeling.However other areas I don't have problems in.I have only recently realised I have it and I have gone through 36 years of my life with no support because I don't need it.I bring up two children I think fairly well and i also work in an office. I too will stick my neck out and say I think this is perhaps not the norm. Many people whatever ends of the spectrum they are on weather they are an adult or a child do need support. I am well aware on both ends of the spectrum how difficult and distressing it can be and if you have a child on any end of the spectrum experiencing difficulties whatever they may be then i would say it is the hardest position in the world to be in.I know because I have been there.

Your making absolute sense to me It's a shock when you realise isn't it. Take your time, take a deep breath and consider where you are today.Not everyone with aspergers need support or help or a diagnosis but many people do.There's no rush take your time to get ypour head together and don't panic.It's not the end of the world honest. About 3 months ago i realised I had mild aspergers but whilst having difficulties in the three key areas of aspergers.I lead a normal life and don't need support.I am happily married with two children and I think I'm an okay mum.I also work.But everyone's needs are different.take care thinking of you.

Lindap I understand partly what you are saying but I personally know some about both but not everything about both. My daughter had severs autistic encephalitus for six months and displayed every chateristic going so I know sadly somethings about the severe end of the spectrum. I have mild as which as you say is on the other end of the spectrum.So i know some but not everything about aspergers. What I do not know is what it is like to have a child on the spectrum permanently day in and day out and the challenges and fighting for their rights that go alongside that. What I do know is that i personally have learnt so much from this forum and it is an open minded supportive forum, so stick around you might be surprised. There are many people on here with a wealth of knowledge covering both ends of the spectrum.

Just wondered if anyone had any advice on this one.I think I have read somewhere that lots of kids with as dislike dressing up so maybe someone will have some ideas. My three and a half year old son(N.T.) has a huge fear of dressing up.He has been asked by his playschool teacher what he would like to be in the nativity play a shepheard or a prince(He told me princess but I think he made a mistake somehow )He is adament he doesn't want to do it because he hates dressing up.He has told me he will join in providing he doesn't have to dress uo but that remains to be seen Anyway i am not bothered whatsoever.My elder daughter was well into it all and I have sat through countless nativity plays with her all dressed up so as long as he's happy I will watch him regardless. But I do feel they are trying to force the issue a bit saying things like' we do try to encourage them to overcome this' But does it matter.Now he is saying things like I don't want to go to playschool today.I might have to dress up.I reassure him he wont and then they seem to try again with him. What does everybody else think??

Just to add even now(and my daughter made a full recovery)She cant bear to throw anything away.She says you throw it away mum but don't tell me you are doing it.She said if she knows she feels sad and this applies to absolutely anything including things like tags on clothes that you have to cut off before you wear them.

He sounds like me.I can either not stop talking.My husband says I give him earache or i don't want to be sociable at all.Same with emotions it's either all or nothign.I loved your description 'emotionally incontinent' I guess that sums it up.

Thanks mossgrove, that explains things a bit.Much appreciated.

When my daughte was ill with autistic encephalitus she too collected rubbish off the floor.We had to draw the line at other peoples spat out sweets though.Red straws were her favourite and she would dart under things in shops and in between peoples legs nearly tripping them up just to collect red straws.I can kind of see the funny side now but at the time it was plain annoying and embarrassing.You have my sympathy. <'> <'>

I though it was just me.I was thinking something important was happening without me

Just as an example.I managed to sob through almost the whole of my mother in laws funeral and my nans.Yet I wasnt particularly close to either.Everone was completely amazed, including me

As an adult with suspected as I have been told that I show no emotion when others would expect me to show emotion.Yet at other times I can be completely over emotional.Is this common for people on the spectrum.For me there seems to be no middle ground I am either completely over emotional or show no emotion whatsoever.Just wondered if anyone else had any thoughts or had come across this before.It's like there is no middle ground and i show two completely different extremes. :

Can I presume that there has been a problem with Krism tonight.I have tried and tried to gain access and have only just been able to, despite trying for about an hour.Looking at the users active in the last 60 minutes there is only me and one other which is very unusual for this time of night. :