speech delay

[star]

Following on from my question below I was just wondering what a speech delay is actually described as.

 

For example, if a child spoke at 10 months, two words by 2, sentances around 2 1/2 - so all age appropriate in terms of development BUT was "unclear" in their speech pronounciation is this a speech delay or not?

 

Thanks, if someone could clarify!!

[Tylers-mum]

Can't really say, all I can state really is that when my son was 2, he wasn't putting words together. When asked questions, he's repeat the last word of that question so when asked 'what's your name', he'd reply simply 'name'. He had echoalia and did not understand the meanings of words, still has trouble in that area but he has climbed mountains with the help of a SALT. Later, he progressed onto repeating back the whole question instead of answering.

 

Hope that helps some.

[col]

My older 2 have been dx with verbal and oralmotor dyspraxia. I had to hunt out a report earlier( so had it at hand) and some features of verbal dyspraxia is "a reduced constonant range, vowel distortions, sequencing difficulties, sound omissions and substitutions etc" does that help at all??

 

Sometimes verbal dyspraxia is hard to dx. DD7 was 5.9 yrs when she was dx with that and it was the Nuffield hospital at Kings cross that did the dx. I think part of it is, unless a child is really severe and a classic case (so able to dx at a younger age) i think speech therapist tend to wait for a certain age for certain sounds to be produced clearer.

[Bullet]

Tom had no babbling until he was after 18 months , most of the time he'd be quiet apart from crying (and he was placid so he'd be quiet a lot). Then he moved on to delayed echolalia and now it's mostly delayed echolia, counting and then every few weeks he'll see a picture and say what it is, but that's not consistent. He's been stuck in this phase for almost a year now, so I'd love to know how to get him to progress to communicative phrases. He likes Makaton but obviously it's early days yet.

[Stephanie]

Sometimes it is what they say rather than how much they say - and the way they intepret things.

 

My son could never understand the difference between "you" "me" "I" "mine" etc. We used to go in a shop and he would say "look, there's a toy like "yours" instead of saying "mine" .. and he wouldn't say "I" he would always use his name. He talked fine in terms of words, he could tell you what any object was called, any country, but he had trouble stringing sentences together and past and present tenses. He was just strange with language, he never called me Mummy or asked questions until just before he started school ... and now he never stops asking questions and everyone of them starts with "Mummy ....!" Lol.

 

I didn't realise his communication was so bad until he was assessed - I just thought he was cute saying things like "Oh no Asa gone whoops" or "Is this yours" (meaning is this mine) ... or apolgising to inanimate objects "sorry carpet, it was an accident" when he spilt yoghurt on the carpet.

 

When he was 3 he went to a Playschool with a language unit - which really helped no end. If he had of been labelled as ASD at that time, he would not have had a place at the SALT unit, which I find infuriating because it was such a good thing for him (and would be for any ASD kid). Thankfully the DX came after.

 

He still struggles with communication, but I got an e mail this morning from his SALT who did a report on him yesterday and found him to be within and beyond the normal range for his age - which made me leap with joy as last time he was 1 year 5 months behind. So they can/do catch up in some ways, but I know he will always struggle with the art of conversation.

[hedders]

my dd speaks fast and words are unclear she is 5.5yrs, she had mild delay but on her last assessment she is now within normal range saying that she she talks quickly, often affecting speech intelligibility.

Even though she has immaturties there is not a concern as many children of 5yrs have diffculty and over the next year these should resolve spontaneously.

 

 

I have a dd who is 2.5yr with delayed repetetive speech, we visit salt every 2 weeks i have to play games only using 1-2 action words e.g up, down,open,close,push,pull.

As she doesnt understand what she says.

[star]

my dd speaks fast and words are unclear she is 5.5yrs, she had mild delay but on her last assessment she is now within normal range saying that she she talks quickly, often affecting speech intelligibility.

Even though she has immaturties there is not a concern as many children of 5yrs have diffculty and over the next year these should resolve spontaneously.

I have a dd who is 2.5yr with delayed repetetive speech, we visit salt every 2 weeks i have to play games only using 1-2 action words e.g up, down,open,close,push,pull.

As she doesnt understand what she says.

 

 

Thank you. Does your DD (5.5 years) have any diagnosis?

[hedders]

Suspected sensory intergration disorder so far..............

i been fighting the school for 7months she is very simular to her younger sister who has been referred to paed. app in 4weeks i wouldnt be suprised if im told eventually asd or as.

Im going to get my dd referred to her paed, as the one she had wasnt much good.

She also has reading and writing diffculties and may be dyslexic too, speech can be apart of that.

Do you have worries about your child?

I will be banging at the salt door if in a yrs time she still has speech diffculties, as she has been discharged, i do have plans to get a 2nd opnion

[col]

feeling a tad green eyed of you Star. My son will be 3 at the end of next of month and he still hasn't had any speech therapy. He has been in the system for speech since oct/nov time last year. All he has had is 2 formal observations and chats with me.

His speech therapist has been to observe him at nursery and have got an app with her at CDC next month. telling you this has made me want to see if shes in and find out. wish me luck

[col]

he is getting referred back to the health centre for group sppech therapy. His attention and concentration has improved that he can handle it now. His speech is that of an 18mth old.

[rainbow queen]

my son was very same as what stephanie has descibed here -----

 

Sometimes it is what they say rather than how much they say - and the way they intepret things.

 

My son could never understand the difference between "you" "me" "I" "mine" etc. We used to go in a shop and he would say "look, there's a toy like "yours" instead of saying "mine" .. and he wouldn't say "I" he would always use his name. He talked fine in terms of words, he could tell you what any object was called, any country, but he had trouble stringing sentences together and past and present tenses. He was just strange with language, he never called me Mummy or asked questions until just before he started school ... and now he never stops asking questions and everyone of them starts with "Mummy ....!" Lol.

 

 

 

 

my son got asssessed by saying what age he was speaking and understanding at for his chronically age

 

ie...at chronically age of 3

he had speech of 1 and a half --ect.....

[zaman]

I think that as Rainbow Queen says it is about how there speech and language is compared to their peers. So not just how many words they have in their vocabulary, but their comprehension.

[JsMum]

I find this post and the other post AS 3YEAR OLD very interesting, J has had very severe language difficulties and at three he was recieving intensive Speech and language therapy though because of his ADHD this was extreamly hard for the speech and language therapist to do but she was excellent with him and persivered with games and tricks up her sleeve to keep him entertained.

 

J can pernounce all his letters now and words but he is having difficulties with constructing sentences and says him for her and her for him, she for he and the other way round and there is loads that are similair too, J has Dyslexia too and I know that this causes a lot of difficulties in areas similair to SPLD so there is a possibilty J has this as well but shocking enough to know the NHS speech and language therapist said she cant diagnose this, so where seeing a private language specialist.

 

J has difficulties interacting with children his own age and as he is getting up to 10 the social gap is really widening now and school are addressing Js difficulties so I am very thankful their.

 

Js speech at three was pernounciation difficulties mainly and he did a lot of cammands physically so psyically pulling you to the cupboard and trying to say " in, in," indecating the red cup for a drink.

 

I am interested to understand the speech level of aspergers and autism as I have seen it stated that for autism speech has to of been delayed is that right and has anyone here have children with AS where speech was delayed.

 

 

JsMum

[oracle]

I am interested to understand the speech level of aspergers and autism as I have seen it stated that for autism speech has to of been delayed is that right and has anyone here have children with AS where speech was delayed.

 

Probably many parents here and all over the UK BUT and OMG I promised myself I was going to drop this but as the criteria for dx stands at the moment if there was a speech delay then it can not be AS.

 

I know that many people here doubt me but I have had this confirmed by most of the top experts in the UK so I am pretty confident that I am correct.

 

Oracle

[Flora]

The criteria for AS (in this country) is very clear regarding speech..... No significant delay in language development.

 

The criteria for AS in America states there can be a delay in language.

 

I'm sure that's why there is such a confusion over this question.

 

When Ben was assessed they ruled out AS because he had significant delay and language disorder.

 

Flora

[MichelleW]

J initially diagnosed as AS even though he had significant speech delay and had previously been diagnosd with specific speech and communication disorder. However his diagnosis has just recently been changed to ASD but was told by consultant that the diagnosis shouldn't make any difference i.e. to support offered.

 

J started speaking at 12 months but regressed after the mmr, and didn't speak again till he was 3, then mainly echolia. He went to a special pe-school where he made significant progress and went into mainstream infant school at 4. He won't stop talkng now! But he does stil confuse words such as he and she.

 

My concern now is with my youngest, who at 25 months only has 3 words and has lost a few words he used to say. Up until now, he has not shown any of the classical signs of ASD which J showed at the same age. Every one say's that my youngest is just lazy and that boys are always slower. But is this really the case?

[hedders]

Cant really advise you only to say my dd is 33months (2yr9m) only spoke occasional 2 word sentences till 26months. Has a signfiicent expressive speech delay mostly still speaks on a 2 word level and occassionaly 3 word sentences, tends to say nouns

Visited the SALT every 2 weeks for 2 months now she sees her every 3 months, just sent us our next targets

understanding instructions containing 2 key words

developing non-verbal interaction skills