Flippin head teacher driving me MADDDDDDD

[shortcake]

I am in shock and not sure what to do... if anyone read my previous thread regarding Ryan not having any support "by accident" lunch time on Monday u might remember that i was called to the school as he had hurt someone it then came out that by accident the school had not allocated anyone for his break time to supervise him as his regular 1-1 was not in. Anyway yesterday afternoon i got a call from the SENCO (who is rubbish I think R could understand the kids more than she does) to say that herself and the 1-1 had used the elbow tecnique on him as he would not come in from the playground. She then told me that he was only allowed half his play as punishment for what he done on Monday! I said (calmly!) that I did not agree with this as he was punished enough through the fact that he was not allowed back into the class on Monday and was made to sit in on another lesson. I also said that if the 1-1 was there it would not have happened therfore he should not be punished loads more to it but dont want to bore you!! Ryan was really upset last night I asked him why he did not go in when he was asked he said he was playing football and did not hear (ryan goes into his own world when he is doing something he enjoys) he said the next thing he knew he was being dragged in by his arms im so mad but not sure what to do I complained on the phone but should i take it further and put it in writing? I have had so many problems with the Head and SENCO they have no understanding of his conditions things got a bit better last term and i seem to be back to square one......

PS sorry if spelling mistakes I have typed this in anger!!

[caren]

<'> poor ryan , yes complain and keep complaining till they listen , i'm learning this every day we are our childrens eyes and ears and we have to stand up for them

 

good luck

[taggingalong]

i agree with caren complain and keep doing so. would they like someone to treat their children the way they treated yours. dont think so. just reading through your posts and your little boy sounds so much like mine i could have wrote the posts myself. is he at mainstream school? my son is getting his assesment done in school today so waiting to see what happens to see if he will continue at mainsteam. my nerves are wrecked. his school are very supportive and understanding but i would def kick up a fuss if they treated him like the way ur little one is being treated.

[Cariad]

Your poor boy, thats so not on. I would definatley write and tell them you are far from happy at this situtaion, and if they have had their 1-1 there on the other occasion nobody would have got hurt. My son went to a mainstream primary school and he has asd,ts and adhd also. He had to have someone with all of the time or there would be a kerfuffle most days!

[TuX]

I am in shock and not sure what to do... if anyone read my previous thread regarding Ryan not having any support "by accident" lunch time on Monday u might remember that i was called to the school as he had hurt someone it then came out that by accident the school had not allocated anyone for his break time to supervise him as his regular 1-1 was not in. Anyway yesterday afternoon i got a call from the SENCO (who is rubbish I think R could understand the kids more than she does) to say that herself and the 1-1 had used the elbow tecnique on him as he would not come in from the playground. She then told me that he was only allowed half his play as punishment for what he done on Monday! I said (calmly!) that I did not agree with this as he was punished enough through the fact that he was not allowed back into the class on Monday and was made to sit in on another lesson. I also said that if the 1-1 was there it would not have happened therfore he should not be punished loads more to it but dont want to bore you!! Ryan was really upset last night I asked him why he did not go in when he was asked he said he was playing football and did not hear (ryan goes into his own world when he is doing something he enjoys) he said the next thing he knew he was being dragged in by his arms im so mad but not sure what to do I complained on the phone but should i take it further and put it in writing? I have had so many problems with the Head and SENCO they have no understanding of his conditions things got a bit better last term and i seem to be back to square one......

PS sorry if spelling mistakes I have typed this in anger!!

do they have permission to use 'physical intevention'? am know with adults,it has to be allowed for each person by a behavioral specialist/pysch first.

re.the elbow technique,is this the one having one person on each side,hooking their arms around the persons elbow and pinning each arm to their sides? am get that one a lot to be brought in after a meltdown,or when refusing to come in,as am have little to no awareness a lot of the time,it will not hurt if done properly,but as Ryan has found out,it is very bad feeling,to be brought into 'reality' by means of restraint,it's like what people say about waking sleep walkers up in the middle of their deep sleep.

to use restraint without trying all other means of getting him to back to reality mode,without focussing on speaking to him first,they have overreacted,they need educating on this definitely.

they cannot use restraining to take an autie or aspie out of their reality,restraining should be the last technique used.

[cmuir]

Hi

 

First point is that the school were responsible for any incidents happening during break/lunchtime as a result of not providing the support that he should be getting.

 

Second point is that if any punishment ie partial loss of playtime is given then it should have been instantaneous (some kids genuinely have poor short-term memory). This is not acceptable losing playtime the following day.

 

What on earth is the elbow technique? Your son's attention should been sought by seeking visual eye contact, instead of dragging him off. Poor kid must have wondered what on earth was happening.

 

I'd definitely complain and make sure it's put in writing. This acts as formal record and means in future should anything like this occur again, it's all recorded. Let them know you disapprove and tell them how you feel it should be handled. Ask for a response in writing.

 

Best wishes

 

Caroline

[pumpkinpie]

I would be asking what handling training staff have within school - not much by the sound of it?

[hev]

no wonder you are so angry,i would complain,not that im very good at complaining cos i get very flustered but we have to for our kids

 

ive never heard of the elbow technique before

[paulathomson]

if someone used the elbow technique on my son i would have them up by the scruff of the neck!

 

seriously though.. i dont know what this technique is but from what you have said it is physical restraint. i would imagine that unless you have given your sonsent either verbally or in writing then nobody in the school should have permission to physically handle your child..i could be wrong but this is the angle i would work from..i thought it was illegal to 'touch' anyone's child and without consent.

 

 

 

i would be intersted to know if this is the case or not... if anyone knows... information that could be useful someday

[Clare63]

I imagin the elbow thing is where the two teacher had one of his arms each and frog marched him into school....appaulling, like Caren says "complain and complain until they listen" Sounds to me that this school needs some re training have you tried getting the outreach people on board.

 

I am so sorry you are going through this Shortcake and poor Ryan muct be wondering what an earth he has done wrong.

 

Good luck with your complaint, you can rely on the support here.

 

Clare x x x

[shortcake]

thank you everyone, it has kind off been brushed under the carpet by the school and they refused to accept that this may not have happened had he had 1-1 in the playground. His statment came this morning so hopefully i am in a better position to argue my case! its horrible at work/home/mates i can stand up for myself no problems but i feel so intimited by the senco and head that i let them get away with it going to contact my local parent partnership to see if they can help me x