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As I understand it 100 is what you would get if everyone was tested and you took the "average".

Less than 100 is below average by whatever.

More than 100 is above average.

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There is IQ which is an intelligence test result ad aplies to everyone, and there is also sometng called an AQ which various online Autism tests use, but any figures should be interpreted with caution.

 

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Rough rule of thumb.

 

An IQ result of under 80 would indicate a possible learning disability. The lower the figure goes the more significant and impairing the disability may be if a persons needs are not meet.

 

An IQ result of over 130 would indicate a possible level of giftedness that could cause problems. The higher the figure the greater potential to cause problems if needs are not meet.

 

The huge majority of the population (50% approx) fall between 90-110.

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I was told that a full scale IQ score is only good if you have a level profile, if you have a spikey profile like mine then it doesn't really show the true ability. When I saw the ed psych last year my verbal IQ was 157 but my performance IQ was only 85. My verbal comprehension was in the 98th centile whereas my working memory index was in the 12th centile. :whistle:

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IQ scores don't mean much on their own, they are best looked at in conjunction with other results. This might help explain: http://www.audiblox.com/iq_scores.htm

 

Karen

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Hi Karen, I'd agree that the number you score bears little relation to life problems or possible life happiness as this represents just one aspect of a person's psychological profile.

However, for those with AS who are consistently under-achieving due to the different way their minds work from the majority's it's more significant as people who are gifted and have AS fond themselves consistently under-employed, or worse - in my case not employed at all - and this can lead to the associated problems of low self-esteem, guilt about not having fulfilled one's potential and acute depression, depression which is more intense for the gifted than for the general population. I myself have suffered these things and, being a member of Mensa and having tested on two different occasions in the 98th and 99th per centile on intelligence tests I know how it feels to feel more intellectually capable than almost everyone I know yet to find myself unable to hold down a job due to social and emotional problems consistent with AS.

I am long term depressed and I have to say the SSRI's are doing little to alleviate it. I used to have something of an outlet in creative writing but my self-worth has plummeted over the last several months and, despite having written over half of a failry elaborate futurist science fiction novel I could not go back to it nor write creatively at the minute even under pain of death. I took a mild overdose of pain killers recenlty, not enough by far to kill someone only about four times over the maximum dosage. The reason I took it was just to see if I had the guts should the worst come to the worst, to see if I had the capacity to end my misery definitively if things got so bad for me that I was in constant and unrelenting mental pain.

I am not close to that state at the moment but I do know that if I was merely of average intelligence i would have neither the sensitivity nor the awareness of things in life which so exacerbate my condition.

And so in answer to your question, such a high score can be a lot more significant for those suffering from Asperger's than it would be for the general population

 

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I did a IQ test and got 135

 

Does anyone know where to get AQ tests?

Have a search on Google for 'AQ Test' and it should show you the way :thumbs:

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An IQ test only shows one thing - how well you did on that IQ test. If you practice taking IQ tests every day for a month you will be great at doing them.

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Most folks are familiar with the version of the IQ test scores where 100= average and a score above 100 = above average and a score of below 100 = below average. However, other measures are possible (e.g. percentiles - what percentage of the population does worse than you on the test). As other folks have correctly said, IQ tests in themselves aren't very meaningful on an individual basis. However, if you take larger groups of people then they start to become better predictors (e.g. if you took a group of 100 people with an average high IQ and another group with an average low IQ, then the high IQ group would overall probably be richer, more successful, etc).

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So if my son (diagnosed ASD) was on the 90th centile when his IQ was tested non verbally, but on the 50th centile when IQ tested verbally, can anyone shed light on what this means for him in terms of education ? His EP report says only 10% of children will have this variance in result but doesnt go on to say what this means in terms of his education.

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So if my son (diagnosed ASD) was on the 90th centile when his IQ was tested non verbally, but on the 50th centile when IQ tested verbally, can anyone shed light on what this means for him in terms of education ?

This is very common in ASDs and is often referred to as a 'spikey profile'. It's why a one number approach to IQ isn't very useful in all cases. I have the same profile as your son (I have high functioning autism) - my IQ is high, but it's only when it's split up that it's really interesting - my verbal IQ is only just above average and I really struggled with the test, but I caused problems to the testers doing my non-verbal IQ test as it was designed such that they worked through the tasks and should have stopped when I got a certain number in a row incorrect, but I completed the test so they couldn't give me a score other than to take the maximum and put a + after it. Averaged out these give my IQ score but these differences wouldn't normally show up.

 

In terms of education, it's important that his teachers are aware of this spikey profile as if they just take the one number approach (as is common) they may be assuming he understands more than he is actually taking in (and it can be easy to draw this opinion if 'big' words and an extensive vocabulary are being used - but it's very likely these may be being used without full understanding). It can be very demoralising to be told, if you're struggling with some aspect of literacy, to "come on, stop being silly, you're a clever boy/girl, I know you can do this". It's not that I/he can't do it, but it may take longer or need to be learnt in a different way. I struggled all the way through school but I'm now doing well at university with a different way of learning.

 

I'm a very visual learner which is common in ASDs (but not in all individuals with ASDs - some will be stronger in other areas as we're all individuals and it's really important that people don't automatically think, oh, he/she has ASD, he/she must be a very visual learner). Being able to plan things out and structure really helps me, and I use lots of colours and diagrams and need things on paper so that I can review them as I find it difficult to take things in aurally. When others understand this, it helps them to work with me.

 

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Thanks Mumbles, that has really helped answer my question. I think my son is not particularly a visual learner (my other son with ASD definitely is). I think he may be a kinesthentic learner. My son is very good at practical things like building things out of lego or k'nex. He is having an expressive language test and seeing the asd specialist advisor, so I am hoping she can recognise where his problems/strengths are and advise the school how to best help him. I have heard of a spikey profile. He had a SNAP test about a year ago which came out spikey. The highest spike was for spacial awareness where he scored highly. My son does use a laptop for some of his schoolwork and this seems to help a bit, and he likes ICT anyway so is happy to use it. Thanks again for your information.

 

The spikey profile is what causes the behaviour problems I am assuming (which seem to come and go and oddly enough get worse around this time of year), with not being able to match his general cleverness with language skills to match. Is this what is referred to as a non-specific language difficulty? Thanks again for your very helpful answer.

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