Im Going to swing for someone

[pingu]

Hi everyone

 

I've Just picked my Daughter (8) up from school, and she immediately burst into tears. Its not the first time this has happened, she gets upset that she cant read, and write, she has very little in the way of friends, and the teachers tell her she is lazy, Ive been waiting since she was in year 2 (now in year 4)for that ###### school to help her with the problems she has. She had been diagnosed with dylesxia and dyspraxia, but as shes not 'that bad' she recieves very little help, after countless requests for a meeting, the senco decided to get her re-tested and the new test found that she was at the "bottom end of the average score" but she wasnt 'severe enough' to be classed as dyslexic. WHATEVER the girl still cant read !!!!! Now she comes out and tells me that during rounders today she couldnt catch the ball, nor could she bat it, so she had been called stupid from her team mates, and told they would not pick her again, so she walked off only to recieve a rolicking from the teacher

 

I have got straight onto the phone and rang the school, and guess what... her teacher is in a meeting, the pchycologist is on holiday, and the senco said she would 'try' and pick her up at school a bit more, and continue the Lexia programme which to be honest is a complete waste of time as she has to be there for 8.35 in the morning (she is supposed to have 10 minutes a day on it) but as i cant get kieran out of the house on a morning she has not been able to make it, With this in mind, the senco was supposed to move the time to a lunchtime (last year) and as yet i am still waiting for it to happen, God im soooo P?*&%%?d off i feel like getting hold of there throats

 

My kids arnt stupid, But because they are not disruptive they are ignored. Same old piggin story... oh I hate this. i hate the tears and tantrums and the continual .

 

What the hell does it take to get some help for stuggling (quiet) children.

And on top of that, she is now upstairs refusing to come down for her tea, kieran is misbehaving and hubby is having kittens over the waste of food.

 

Someone wake me up when the world is a nice place again.

[Tez]

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Been there. A is quiet and causes no problems and yes it is like hitting your head against a brick wall.

 

What the hell does it take to get some help for stuggling (quiet) children.

 

Unfortunately, in our case a complete breakdown but I hope that's only because I made many mistakes and didn't work the system well enough. What I did learn, too late, was that the way to get help was to send continual emails into the school showing how A wasn't coping. Every little thing that upset him was recorded on email to the Deputy Head. Don't keep disvcussing things verbally, it all needs to be recorded in writing. I was sending emails daily. It did achieve 1:1 support even without a statement and it did achieve a far better understanding of A's problems by the school's management. Unfortunately, I started my campaign too late for A, I tried to solve things verbally for too long and I didn't complain about all the minor things that caused him such massive problems, so by the time he did get the support he needed it was too late.

Edited March 29, 2006 by Tez

[col]

Can i join you???

Have just posted on the off topic area about wanting a brick wall.

 

The test that your daughter was given for dyslexia can you describe it, for instant how long was it for and how many activites did she have to do?

[pingu]

Lol. if anyone has a couple of brick walls spare there you know where to send em

 

 

The test that your daughter was given for dyslexia can you describe it, for instant how long was it for and how many activites did she have to do?

 

Col, the tests that she had done (and some of what was said) are as follows. (in Red) Please note at the time of the tests her age was 8 years and 7 months

The report says:

S. was referred to us mainly at the instigation of her mother She has been the subject of CAMH services about her compulsive behaviour, possible 'dyslexia', abnormal fear of been closed in and finally about shauna's headaches, stomach aches and feeling sick every night. With the exception of the 'dyslexia' i have not focused upon them in this assessment though as will be seen there were one or two rather unusual features of S's behaviour in the interviews.

 

the report goes onto outline her attitude (generally cheerful/quiet but at times immature) and the fact that she was happy to make conversation but these often bordered on fantasy.

 

it goes on.

 

"I used the Wechsler Objective Reading Dimentions tests with S. and she responded well to them. On basic reading she went speedily through the single words presented, even when these became quite difficult and she was displaying a number of errors. ............ (i wont write the whole thing)

Results for this showed her reading age of 7 years 6 months and reading comprehention ot 8 years 0 months. The score on spelling is somewhat poorer, at 7 years 0 months. This shows quite a discrepancy between her chronological age and attainment age but even so the standard score here is still just within the average range.

 

Two other tests of literacy were taken both of handwriting. When copying 40% of the words written show errors of one kind or another. I would see written work as an area of concern and one that should perhaps be given specific additional support at this time.

 

The Phonological Assessment Battery The results show that in this area at least she does not have difficulties all her scores are above average.

 

The Wechsler Objective Language Dimentions Tests "the picture here is that her listening comprehention is about 8 years 6 months with her oral expression at about 7 years 6 months. I rate her basic understanding of language as average but oral expression a bit lower. her written expression presents a different picture. It was here she produced the first story for me which contained some zany elements. (it goes on to explain S's love af fridges ) .. " I wonder whether there is a preoccupation with them that should be noted, especially by the CAMH's team. Its worthy of note that when she was writing these bits or talking about them she became more animated, and less of the rather timid politeness was shown.

 

The Wechsler Objective numerical Dimensions test As this test went on it became obvious she was not understanding the concepts properly. Also the problems with her handwriting slightly interfered with how she presented answers

 

Wechsler Intelligence Scale for Children III Addition UK

On general knowledge she scores within the average range, there is a marginal score on her memory for digits.

 

GENERAL COMMENTS = S. is indeed coping reasonably well in school (yeah right ) Though she is probably not in the more able groups in her class. Tests findings suggest that nearly all her attainments are within the normal range, although some are rather poorer than others and some are fairly low in the normal range. There is non the less a particular difficulty with written expression which in my view could be the subject of some more specific help in school. I hope that the fact that she is not a major concern to her teachers can be registered as a very postive feature for the moment, even if there are one or two areas where problems remain to be addressed.

 

This assessment took place in January and i am still waiting for the school to respond as regards his 'general comments'. in fact on the whole of what was in it.

 

Your views welcome, im sat here simmering away

 

shaz

(p.s sorry about the length, )

[col]

I join you

I think my eldest DD did the same kind of tests but they couldn't say wherever or not she was dyslexic due to the severity of her speech (generally gobswallop) i know as i have got contact number of a man who can assess for dyslexia in children that are non-verbal but i can't afford him at the mo.

Don't think he will do a 2 for 1 deal either.

 

Anyway she's only got one more term left, and when iwent to the next school the head wasn't too impressed with the phase "specialist language teacher" as he said what can this person do that my teachers' can't.

I think that will work in my favor as i don't want the same teacher coming in to see DD at her new school as she clearly doesn't know what on earth she doing.

[Flora]

Can I join this one too? Luke is 9, is dx moderate dyslexic, has hardly even begun to grasp even simple maths concepts (can't even add up or take away) and guess what additional help he gets? 20 minutes a week in two 10 minute sessions with the HT to work on his maths concepts, and that's only been happening for the past month. I paid for full EP and CP assessments last year resulting in his confirmed dx of dyslexia, pragmatic difficulties and ASD (he was originally dx age 6 with SP language disorder, specific learning difficulties and autistic tendencies). In the more recent reports the only thing that the school focussed on is that he scored above average for expressive language, they totally ignored the fact that he scored in the bottom 3% for receptive language and reading comprehension.

 

It's not just a brick wall. It's a ###### nuclear fall out shelter

 

Lauren

Edited March 29, 2006 by Lauren

[Paula]

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[PinkSapphireAngel]

My 8 year old ds also had the LEA assessment for Dyslexia and the outcome was pretty simlar excpet they were almost delighted to find he has that Mears Irlen syndrome where words appear to move badly for him and have refered him to eye specialists at hospital.

He scored badly on some of the main signs of Dyslexia but as you say school / LEA just focus on the things they scored ok at!!

 

We are looking into getting him assessed privately but its so expensive and we are also looking into getting a private EP assessment for our older son so a lot to look at paying for especially when its all stuff the LEAs should be providing properly!

[Tylers-mum]

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[Malika]

Hi Pingu, and all <'> <'> <'> <'>

 

Another one to share the boat I hope it won't sink due to overcrowding, as H is quiet and very bright according to the tests (from the EP LEA) (and I am convince that they set up their test according to the result they want to find) and in spite of the medical team raccomendation and his DX (ASD) he receives very little support,waiting for him to fall further behind unfortunatly this is an ongoing story as if a child does not fall 4 years behind his peers it seems that he won't receive much as a support however while AS or HFA is not well recognised except when there is behaviour problem (disruptive ) dyslexia and dyspraxia are better recognised and it seems that with a proper DX LEA eventualy have to do something.

 

Pingu I think you cannot rely on LEA test but you should try to get an assesment for dyslexia from may be the dyslectic society or some similar bodies.

The ongoing trick from professionals GP teachers OT and the like is to write that parents are concern implying however that they are not... (why do those SEN children have parents ..? they are such a nuisance..!!! )

 

Hope things get better for you. <'>

 

Take care.

 

Malika.

[PinkSapphireAngel]

AS or HFA is not well recognised except when there is behaviour problem (disruptive ) dyslexia and dyspraxia are better recognised and it seems that with a proper DX LEA eventualy have to do something.

 

 

Sorry but not always true, my ds is now 11, he was diagnosed with Dyspraxia aged 6 and I am still fighting for statutory assessment and help for him

also at the time of diagnosis the school applied for assessment and we were told by the EP "Dyspraxia is yet another made up American syndrome"

 

He was then also diagnosed with ASD/AS when he was 9 and still no difference despite him self harming and threatening suicide and having to be put on Risperidone!

 

We are now left with a child with no secondary school place for september as the only school our LEA have offered is an all boys school that is on special measures for over 4 years and we are waiting the decision from our SENDIST tribunal last week for the LEA refusing again to even assess him.

 

I seriously think this boat will tip with all these parents on board

[col]

This boat is so going to tip over.

 

I got a telling off from the teacher and the head teacher concerning DD7 this morning

 

As her statement review is coming up. I need to do more with her at

home with regards to her HW as the school does most of it.

The head says that i need to start doing more at home with DD7 as she

needs to write their reports and my "lack of support" will hinder in

dd7 statement.

 

HUH??!!!

 

"i know it really hard for you!" hummm i don't think they do as they

keep saying they can't see the ADD/ADHD in her!!

 

Well I DO!!

 

It hit's as soon as leaves the school door, she either tired, bad

tempered she's like a loose cannon when she comes out of school. You

don't know what she's going to be like.

How on earth do they expect me to do the HW with her when she's like

this??????

 

 

More importantly what has the parent side of things regarding hw got

to do with her statement??

 

When i do try do her HW, she can't do it properly, as she is so tired, as she is tired her reading deteriates her speech deteriates everything DETERIATES!!

 

And most of it is due to the fact that i think she is dyslexic and that she trys so hard at school to concentrate that she is more tired when i try and push hw on her then any other child.

 

Am thinking, right i try and do her hw and they will have a essay on how she found everything hard and how long it toke her to do it and how many mistakes that she makes and maybe THEN they just might realise why i don't push the HW.

 

But hey i am prone to flying roasted pork!!

 

Can you tell i'm getting really heated up over this??

What annoyed me is that they DID NOT LISTEN TO ME over the eyes, i must of said at least 3 times that DD7 has been referred to the gp to be seen by the hospital. (even tho there is sfa wrong with her eyes!!!)

 

To get "all you going to do it then?!"

And oh you won't be wanting these numbers then??

 

DUHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

 

classic head teacher mistake who is also the senco last year was when i was asking for the head's siggie on the form to be told she doesn't have disabilities!!

 

Had to show her the part where it says on the form COMMUNICATION!

 

Forgot to add or she sooooooooo hyper she won't concentrated to do it

Edited March 30, 2006 by col

[col]

PSA who said this ""EP "Dyspraxia is yet another made up American syndrome""""

 

give the initals PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

 

I will pee myself laughing if it's the girls EP!!

 

Cos it will explain so much!!

[elaine1]

oh god, its a wonder we dont end up in an asylum the amount of pressure we live under isnt it?. get the stupid cow of a senco and make her move the thing to lunchtime pronto, tell her you will contact the ed authority if she dosent.

 

alos, calling yr child names is abuse and tell the school if its not stopped straight away you will go the the authorities or the newspapers about it.

put a rocket up em and light it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!