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smileyK

how common in having both dyspraxia and dyscalculia ???

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smileyK   

i have dyspraxia officially diagnosed when a child in juniors school at time always struggled found numbers digits maths concepts so hard to recognise andd understand i know some aspects of both conditions overlap like many others do as they closely related really i always believed and thoughts my maths difficulties were down to dyspraxia and nothing more but now research learn more on this condition just don't know could there be link connection possibility there to have both conditions? as find reading clocks difficult telling time takes me ages at work when ask me have give it simple answer like 3.45 instead of words as confusing get it wrong .... ??? anyone explain more into this?

 

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I'll have to track down the chart that shows the overlaps between dyspraxia, dyscalculia, dyslexia, ADHD and ASD. I think it was on the DANDA website.

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I couldn't tell you to be honest but have a look at the following links:

 

http://www.dyspraxicadults.org.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1656

 

Dyslexia, Dyspraxia, Dyscalculia, AND ADD?!

 

The One Show: Dyscalculia: More Information

 

I hope this helps - at least for a start!

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smileyK   

In my assessment report it stated that " the area of greatest difficulty for me is my perceptual reasoning skills and would be advised to be tested further" so would this make dyscalculia cause of this being effected so much?

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Hey there smileyK! What's with the duplicated postings?!? I read your reply 3 times and can't get it out of my mind! Was that intended?!?

Edited by Mike_GX101

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I have both, they were diagnosed by separate people in different years, but the second agreed with my previous diagnosis of Dyspraxia, and himself diagnosed Dyscalculia. Honestly, there seems to be so much overlap with all the things I have been diagnosed with, but I think if you show significant signs of difficulty in maths then a separate diagnosis is useful - I got one to one help in Maths at school.

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Yes, APD, VPD, dyslexia, dyscalculia, Aspergers etc all come under the banner "Special Learning Disabilities" (SpLD for short) but because there is so much overlap, each is difficult to diagnose individually in which case a person is usually given the generic diagnosed as having Aspergers (i.e. Higher Functioning Autism).

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Dyspraxia I have been diagnosed with, and it shows through being clumsy and directionally stupid, but we learned to walk therefore we can learn to sort out our issues. But discalculia, I have no idea, but I always sucked at pure math despite hours of remedial math and out of school private math lessons, but I just didn't get it and so failed my math exams. But any math based science subject I excelled in and there I learned my issue could very well be a case of laziness in that my mind thinks; ''what's the point, math for the sake of math seres no purpose'', but like I said math based science subjects, no problem I could see the math at work and so I ended up with Physics, Seamanship to include ship stability, design engineering, technical drawing, metalworking, electronic engineering, civil engineering and aeronautical engineering qualifications, but though I tried so many times, I just could not get a math qualification.

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justine1   

Here you go here's the overlap of the neurodiversity - http://www.danda.org...o-diversity.php

 

This is very interesting.(sorry smiley for going off your original topic!)

 

I have for a long time thought my 4 year old Eli may have ASD like his two older brothers,but something just does'nt fit. However about a month ago I started looking into Dyspraxia,mainly due to his clumsiness...which my other three boys do not have to that extent. He constantly walks into door frames/people/objects and trips over things that dont appear to be there.

His teacher says he has great difficulty holding a pencil,but I would say he is likely to be able to read(though a little young) as he can recognise and sound all the alphabet and some basic words.

 

What baffled me was that since he was a baby he definatley has some sensitivity to food textures and sound, he is okay with touch and smell. He always licks things and then says what colour it tastes like as opposed to what it looks like,he does this with cars in the street which is very embarrassing. Generally loves to lick many objects,seems to make him happy. He also had speech delay and still remains quiet when outside of home,at home he is very chatty and loud..teachers cant believe it! So I didnt see where this fits in with Dyspraxia,but now I see where it overlaps.

 

I think he may have dyspraxia and possibly sensory integration disorder,still maybe it is ASD but having two with ASD I really dont think he does have ASD. We are waiting for him to be seen by the child development nurse at school and take it from there,the school have said he is starting to show some delays but I dont want to rush things.

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What baffled me was that since he was a baby he definatley has some sensitivity to food textures and sound, he is okay with touch and smell. He always licks things and then says what colour it tastes like as opposed to what it looks like,he does this with cars in the street which is very embarrassing. Generally loves to lick many objects,seems to make him happy. He also had speech delay and still remains quiet when outside of home,at home he is very chatty and loud..teachers cant believe it! So I didnt see where this fits in with Dyspraxia,but now I see where it overlaps.

 

 

This sounds very like there is an element of Synesthesia where the senses overlap going on :)

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livmum   

My son almost 18 is dx ADHD, Aspergers Dyspraxia and Dyscalculia. He attends an independent specialist school where they understand dyscalculia. I read lots on this subject before choosing this school.To get a dx at that time was hard. He saw a well known specialist in the field. I sought out the separate dyscalculia dx when he was almost 10 as by then it was obvious that despite his high IQ he just couldn't get beyond basic maths. With the help of very specialist teachers he gained a GCSE which means he can go to uni. He wont ever be a mathematician. He still hates maths.

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Mihaela   

I have both, but they're not as bad as they once were. I also have a problem with left and right - I always have to think which is which, and I think this is also connected with my problems with negative numbers, credit/debit, reversals, etc.

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thank you for highlighting to me issues.

 

I have a mate, who has to take his med's at a certain time.

 

(and obviously I ignorantly assumed when he visits, that he knows the time to take them?

 

I never realised some people can't keep track of time.

 

in future I'll keep an eye on the clock for him.

 

(I never released back in his home, he has a care worker who tells him when to take them.)

 

education is good.

 

ty

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Mihaela   

"I never realised some people can't keep track of time"

I can't either. My special interests make me lose track of time and I can be very absent-minded. I often don't know what day it is, and sometimes forget what month it is. I even still sometimes start writing the year as 19.., instead of 20.. ! I'm supposed to take medication twice a week but very often I forget and may go up to two weeks before taking it again, depending on how busy my mind is, but luckily these lapses don't seriously affect my health. I'd need help with more critical medication, just as I do with paying bills, etc.

I still habitually convert prices of food, etc. into old money. If I don't, it means nothing to me. Much of my life seems to have stopped in 1971! I find all this very hard to explain.

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Its quite common to have two problems on the spectrum. I have been diagnosed both with dyspraxia and dyslexia. A good way of getting rid of dyscalcula is apparently working with numbers on a daily basis, maybe log in to the my maths website and use some of their free games?

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